1975_10 The Daily Collegian October 1975

              2-THE DAILY COLLEGIAN        Wednesday, October 1, 1979
The
question
person
Do you
sympathize
with
Patty Hearst?
Uaylene Joe, Motor music major:
"No. I don't think it's right
for her lo get out on ball, Just
because she's got money. But
she'll probably get out anyway."
Question Person: .
David Menendian
Photographer: Barry Wonfi
Sandra Kuhn, senior Kndlsh major.
"No. I think she'll get off because her parents are wealthy.
That's the way II Is In society.
I don't think she should he allowed to get out on ball."
Rill Meyers, eraduatr student:
"Yes. She's had so much pressure put on her from the kidnapping. She's changed a great
deal during her capture. I really
feel sorry for her, she was a
totally different person t>efo°fe
she was kidnapped. She's probably got the best legal help she
can get, 3nd she'll probably get
out unless she gets lied up wtth
that robbery in Sacramento."
susau   Sanche/.   junior  business
rnajnr:
"No I think her dad's gunna
gel her out. lie lias all the money
and influence. Also. If anyland)
does something, tike the guy who
killer! nobby Kennedy, and pattv
Hearst's crimes, |)eople automatically thhnk they're insane."
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lohll Nelson, junior Industrial
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"I don't sympathize with her
at all. She was a person Ixirn
with a silver spoon in her mouth.
Because of her upbringing anil
past history, she was spoiled.
These radical groups were attracted to her because she wasn't
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These groups then changed her
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Recall petition presented
Editor:
Since the Student Senate voted
to remove Susan Good and David
Nlkssarian from office, there
have been numerous letters and
articles defending the two student vice presidents. These articles have only exposed one side
of the Issue. .   -
The Issue Is not what sVeet
and dear personalities these two
persons are, but rather their
Ineptitude at conducting the business of student government.
Delvln Munshower wrote on
Sept. 17, Implying "Suzy"worked
long and hard hours during the
summer preparing for this fall.
What Munshower falls lo note Is
that Suzy, who was voted-In to
represent students, had not taken
the time to notify all her fellow
student representatives.
Other Senators were willing
to work Just as long as Suzy and
they were even willing to, without voting themselves a raise,
as Suzy and David did.
It Is even more ridiculous to
laud Suzy when you view the fact
the Senators she Informed of any
summer meetings were those she
thought were Inclined to vote with
her.
Suzy's own letter to the Collegian on Sept. 15, attempts to
show her as a wronged public
servant and to place the hlame
for the summer's budget-hearing
fiasco on others.
"The Senate" changes Its mind
all Ihe time. It took them three
different meetings to decide on
a budget and each one was radically different from the other,"
she wrote.
Poor Suzy . . . she must be a
tremendously courageous person
If she can take all this for Ihe
sake of "Good" student government. She does not mention how
she led the sessions. Nor how
she and timekeeper Nlkssarian
were not blamed by those affected
by the first budget hearing, which
was held without due notice to the
concerned parties. Neither will
she place the blame on herself
and her sidekick, Nlkssarian,
for bungling Senate procedures In
recent meetings.
A petition seeking the removal
of Susan Good and David Nlkssarian from office Is being circulated about campus.
On Sept. 10 two-thirds of the
Senators voted to remove Ihe
two. However, Ihe university's
administration meddled once
more into student affairs and
reinstated the two.
The petition will he circulated
by representatives of various
campus organizations and will
contain the reasons for which
their recall is being sought.
We urge all students to review
the facts and remove the problems by signing the petition.
Senators Angle Rios. Luis
Amhnz, Richard Carrillo.
David Davenport and Students for Responsible Government (SRG)
Hayden support urged
I'.dilur:
On Wednesday, Oct. 1, Tom
Hayden, candidate for the Democratic nomination to the U.S.
Seriate, will speak In Ihe College
Union lounge at noon. We, the
undersigned, members of the Students' Ad Hoc Committee for
Hayden. urge all our fellow students to come and hear Tom
speak, and then join with us In
actively working for his election.
Up and down the lengthofCall-
fornla, on UC and state university
campuses, students are forming
organizations to Join In the grass
roots effort which IsTom'scampaign.
At the heart of this campaign
is a new definition of politics
which can be stated simply as
people gaining control over their
own lives. No more Vietnams.
No more Ciilles. No longer will
giant multi-national corporations
be allowed to manipulate the
American economy for their own
benefit and to the detriWnt of
the rest of us. No more bizarre
and Inhuman activities on the part
of the CIA or any other government agency. No more dlscrlmi-
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and placeful. To these ends the
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THURSDAY^
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6 p.m.-The CSUF Gay People's Union will meet in room 304
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7 p.m. -A meettng will be held
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and crowded and noisy and about
as congenial as a shooting gallery, there's nothing wrong with
It.
Student: They've got classier
bars than this, man.
Teacher: I'm not looking for a
classier bar, though - quite the
contrary—I'd Just like someplace
that's close to my office, within
walking distance, say, that's quiet
and comfortable, that's all. Something that's convenient.
Student: Like a refuge?
Teacher: Right, exactly. A refuge. A refuge from the students
and from class. A place that's got
no students and no class . : .
Lord, what good's a bar if you
can't take refuge in it? What
good's a refuge If everybody's
In there popping away at you?
Student: Keeps you on your
toes, man.
Teacher: So does ballet.
Student: Well, all right. I guess
you guys deserve a little privacy
after class if you want It, but
what about the students?
Teacher: What about them?
Student: Students get thirsty,
too. •
Teacher: Not as thirsty as
teachers. Not nearly. I've been
both", I know what I'm talking
about. If anything, the students
tend to slake their thirst on the
teachers. They drink you like a
keg of beer.
Student: Metaphorically, you
mean?
Teacher: I mean they tend to
suck you dry, son. It Isn't beer
they get out of you, either, or
whiskey, and it sure as hell Isn't
milk.
.Student (confused): What Is it? *
Teacher: It doesn't matter,
whatever It ls It's gone by three
o'clock. What It leaves you with
ls my concern — what it leaves
me with. What It leaves me with
Is a powerful thirst, which a
drink or two helps to alleviate.
That's what the bar's for. You
know what bars are for.
Student: Yeah, man, I understand what you're saying, but
white you guys are in there getting your thirst alleviated In your
own private club, we're getting
ours alleviated out of a water
fountain. You think that's fair?
Teacher: Of course it's not
fair. What's fairness got to do
with It? It's a question of need,
goes slumming
not fairness. When aneedarises,
you fill It, that's all. The greater
the need, the greater the attention
it deserves, and the more immediate. When the road crew'starts
working on the streets, they fill
the biggest holes first, then they
work their way down to the little
ones. If they've got any asphalt
left they might put tn ft bicycle
path. To each according to his
need.
Student: Who decided all that?
Who says you guys deserve a bar
more than we do?
Teacher (removing his Jacket):
Who decided the students needed
a shlt-eatlng bowling alley, or a
record room, or a new baseball
field or a literary magazine or
all these screwy programs they
keep providing you with in the
name of higher education? Certain needs develop, that's all,
and they develop obscurely — like
holes In the road. One type of
hole gets filled with asphalt, or
a bowling alley: another type gets
filled with a bar. In my opinion
this bar is the first practical
Idea anybody has come up with
in a long time. If it's money
you're concerned about. I can
assure you that this tight-fisted
school In this penny-pinching
stale Isn't looking for something
frivolous lo spend Its money on,
at least nothing less frivolous
than a bowling alley.
Aside from all these practical
considerations, however, ahem.
I believe Fresno State University will produce as many serious
drinkers as It has administrators, politicians, football players, war heroes, heroin addicts,
poets, Jesus freaks, and howlers.
What are you complaining about,
anyway? Who would you rather
listen to — some stlffnecked
pedagogue  that's cold sober or
one that's riding high on a couple
martinis? Use your head, roan.
Student: Well, you have a point
there. I guess some of those
turkeys might lighten up a little
if they were a little less sober
and a little more drunk: It couldn't hurt them any . . .
You know, man . . . yon know
what I think It ls? I think what
It gets down to, since we're getting down, Is that you hate to see
teachers get away with anything
because -they never let you get
away with anything.
Teacher (lo bartender): Another round here, please . . .
(shakes his head) .. .GoodLord,
Is that what it's come to? Whan I
was a student the only thank I
didn't want somebody else to get
away with had nothing to do with
teachers or bars. At least it didn't belong to the teachers or lo
the bars: It belonged to Ihe girls,
and most of them were sitting on
It.
Student: Nothing's changed,
man.   They   Just   sit   different.
Teacher (raises glasstlredly):
Here's to Mother Nature.
Student (raises glass hopefully): Here's to it.
—lo lie continued—
VVedneeday, October 1, 1978      THE DAILY roilEGIAN-3
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Petitions are c&culated
to recall student officers
by Bob Cuddy
Petitions asking for the recall
of CSUF's student vice-presidents may be circulated among
students today, according to Mm
supporters.
The petition ask* that Susan
Good, legislative vice-president,
and David Nlkssarian, College
Union vice-president, be recalled. It will be presented to
David Bell, Dean or Student Affairs, thts morning, according to
student Senator Angle Rios, one
of the petition's backers.
If Bell approves the petition,
It will circulate today, Rios said.
Some 700 signatures are needed
to force a recall election, she
said.
Rios, and student Senators
David Davenport, Richard Carrillo and Luis Ainbrlz, who signed
a letter-to-the-edltnr In today's
Collegian, give five reasons for
Good   and   Nikssarlan's   recall:
Fiscal ineptitude, conspiracy
to subvert the constitution, wilfully deceiving the Senate, irn-
Vets meet; discuss CSUF programs
Twenty-five veterans met
Tuesday to discuss the availability of information on campus
for vets.       s
According to David Garrison,
one of the 20 who met, a committee has been formed to Investigate Cal-Vet loans, federally Insured student loans, work-study
programs and Day Care center
options for veterans.
Garrison said although only
25 veterans attended the meeting.
II was still sufficient. There are
approximately 2.000 vets on campus.
Any veterans Interested in further meetings with oilier vets
should rontart Tito Thomas In
the Keats Campus Building.
Dr. itlchard Anvil will bo advising the group.
proper decorum, and subverting
the will of the Senate.
Good and Nlkssarian each earn
$1,600 a year, and were paid
$300 for thetr work during the
summer.
Last spring Gene Gibson was
elected legislative vice-president, Good waa elected College
Union vice-president, and Nlkssarian waa Involved In a disputed
Senate election with Ambrtr..
On June 24, six days before
Good, Gibson and the new Senate
was sworn In, Gibson resigned
due to poor grades. Last year's
AS President Steven Moe appointed Good to Ida seat, and
Nlkssarian to Good's.
Had the vacancies not been
filled until Price took office on
July 1, neither Good nor Nlkssarian could have filled the
slots, since they must be filled
by student Senators.
On July 12 the new Senate confirmed the appointments made
hy Moe, the old President. Good
and Nlkssarian have been embroiled In controversy since, and
at one point this fait were voted
from office by the student Senate.
The move was later called Illegal by the administration, and
the Senate failed to follow It up.
Good, Nlkssarian and Price
also came under fire during the
summer for alleged Improper
handling of budget bearings on
the $3 in,000 student budget.
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