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2-THE DAILY COLLEGIAN Wednesday, September 17, 1975 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR Sorry to hear about Senate Edotor: As a student on thts campus I was very sorry to'learn of the Senate's actions with regards to both Miss Good and Mr. Nlkssarian. I believe the Senate has done a great Injustice to these two student body officers. I especially believe this Is true with Miss Good. As a student custodian in the College Union, I personally have seen Miss Good work not only during the summer week days but also during the summer nights and weekends to prepare the student government for toe Fall semester. I am sure Dave Price could not have asked for a better teammate than Miss Good. But what has Miss Good received for these efforts? The first shabby treatment I personally saw was at the Student Senate meeting July 29. I was working on the top level of the College Union during this meeting. On the doors of the meeting room Miss Good had placed a note giving the meeting time and at Its bottom she had placed her name. But some blockhead had written after Miss Good's name a profane word directed towards her. Yet, with all the traffic going In and out of this meeting room, not one person had the moral courage to simply remove these remarks from the door. In fact, I, myself, had to do this job. Now concerning the constitutionality of Miss Good's and Mr. Nlksarrian's appointment, I cannot help but ask why this Issue did not become a part of the July 29 meeting? In other words, why did the Senate wait until the Fall semester'' Moreover, If Mr. Davenport Is so sure that Miss Good never properly held her office why does he want to pay Miss Good tor her summer work'' To the first of these questions I can only guess. Maytie some of our Senators prefer a Roman circus with cheering crowds to be present while they are doing the cutting. 1/ this Is so, maybe these Senators should be reminded that history is lull of cases where the victors of Roman circuses have become the victims. why he would want to pay Miss Good. Maylie Mr. Davenport's ion- EDITORIAL Resignation only honorable way Beleaguered student vice-presidents Susan Good and David Nlkssarian could save everybody a lot of time by formally resigning at today's Senate meeting, and clearing the way for AS President David Price III to appoint their successors. It Is the only honorable way to end their squalid tenure In office. of I to t • of t Collegian this week portrays the pair as victims. Such a notion is preposterous. Good and Nlkssarian, along with Price and former AS President Steve Moe, have been involved In a fast shuffle since last June. Their conduct In office since then has been undemocratic, devious, and ruthless. Moe. last year's president, appointed this year's vice-presidents, Good and Nlkssarian, after legislative vice-president-elect GeneGlh- son resigned June 24. This group of con persons would have us believe that the appointments were so urgent they couldn't' wait six days until Price took office July I and appointed his own people. You bet the appointments couldn't wait: student Senators have to occupy those positions, and after July 1 neither Good nor Nlkssarian would qualify, though they did under Moe. A novice Senate ratUied the appointments July 12 and has been trying to take back their action for a week. Price won't go along, and the matter will go to a Student Court appointed hy Price, Nlkss tliet I try I f.ivor science hurts. If this la so, Mr Davenport should realize that you their [avor. Meanwhile, Good-Nikssar an opponent David feels rules must tie obeyed he should l*> reminded that others have Davenport will try to rou overlooked the fact that on the night of July 29 he and his fellow a Ihe Court. Senators ocrupled a room In the Union far past closing hours and Sparing us that charade 1 reason enough lor technically could have lieen asked to leave. Cowl and Nlkssarian to res Ign. But another - In closing, 1 would like to remind the Senate to consider the and more Important — reasc eihical question when they look at the constitutional question. A ron- office since July 1. stllutlon Is a living tiling, not a gravestone of rules. SKI I.lll (.,,1 UV for the EOP Summer Institute; and July 29, to meet with representatives of all budgeted areas. VERBAL ABUSE This was the controversial 'verbal abuse- meeting, during which people who had been deceived all summer by the executive officers exploded In anger at them. Despite the bitterness In the air, however, the Senate showed the leadership, maturity, and responsiveness so lacking In Price, Good and Nlkssarian. Senator Gary Nelson, for example, attacked •closed door" meetings like the July 12 one, and called for public notice of Senate hearings. Senator Angle Rlos fought to make sure everyone was heard. Senator David Davenport got busy with his pencil, trying to figure solutions to hudget Impasses. Senator Lola Richmond circulated among all parties, trying to keep The Senate ended that night by granting sub- ' | stantial Increases to people who could Justify them, and cutting the salary boosts It had earlier given to Good, Price and Nlkssarian. Through It all. the trio sat Impassively, dodging well- deserved verbal tomatoes, and watching the Senate undo all that they had done. But after the meeting Good sent two letters to CSUF President Norman Baxter, Price sent a letter. Senator-proxy Jim Halm sent a letter, and Nlkssarian signed one of the Good letters. letters - except Price's, which stressed finances - was that the Senate granted the budget increases July 29 under the threat or physical A picture was painted of an angry mob. Good called the meeting a "melee,* and said she feared she'd "never get out alive." Ham talked about broken teeth, and dwelt at length and In detail on some of the profantty he said he'd heard. Baxter, alarmed, rejected the budget, largely because of these letters. Senators later denied they acted under duress, but the damage was "LAST S For thts writer, the Good letters were the proved that, If they couldn't get what they wanted In open m Ing, they'd go b the truth, and even He, to achieve their e In addition, they were vengeful: th Good those who had been most outspoken against the lad they gone through >u wouldn't be reading the Collegian today. The budget hassle ls over, thanks to the Nlkssarian have proven thetr unfitness for office, whether or not they hold their jobs legally. A tendency to abuse power by seeking revenge through subterfuge and deceit are not leadership qualities. They remind me too much of a recentlwetired U.S. Prest- | Calendar I Noon —MECHA meeting in the International Room of the cafeteria. 2:15 p.m.-The Academic Policy and Planning committee will meet In T 117. 7pjn.-PhI Chi Theta, business /raterntty will meet tn College Union room 308. Business meeting will begin at 7 p.m., pledging of new members at 8 p.m. FRIDAY 8 p.m. — Friday night movie In the College Union Lounge. The movie 'Dirty Harry," will be shown again at 10 p.m. Price expected to veto Good, Nibsorian ouster David Price, president of the Associated Students, said be will veto the Student Senate's resolution that ousted David Nlkssarian as College Union vice-president and Susan Good as legislative vice-president. The veto will come at today's Student Senate meeting at 3 p.m. In CU 305. Student Senator David Davenport, who presented i lutton to oust Ms. Good and Nlkssarian, comment. o tern of the Senate will also hi Wednesday. September 17, 1975 THE DAILY COLLEGIAN-3 Walker humanist during the politically turbulent 1960s Mime troupe here Thursday The San Francisco Mime Troupe, one of the ■ountry's best-known political theater companies, »all appear at CSUF Thursday at noon in the Free Speech area In "Frljoles," an original comedy itxmt the world food crisis. with zany action ranging over three continents, i. locales as diverse as the World Food Conference m.l a jack-tn-the-Box hamburger stand, "Frtjoles* us two hungry couples — one American, one inhbean — against Henry Kissinger andAgrlcul- ure Secretary/food monopolord Earl *Bunz." This farcical mini-musical sets out to explain, in half an hour, why Americans face rising food prices and people In Third World < Its well-Illustrated answer: people are hungry because the world food supply ls rapidly being monopolized by a handful of multi-national corporations and because the U.S. government ls using food as a weapon of economic warfare. Asking such questions, and giving such answers, are habits that cost the Mime Troupe the government and foundation support on which most theaters have to depend and has allowed the group to maintain Its goal of utilizing the theater to liter the political economical structure. The Mime Troupe is a group of more than 10 traveling professional actors presented 'The Mother* to an enthusiastic at CSUF two years^ago. (Continued from Page 1) with a shock of white hair and brilliant blue eyes, and a deep, resonant voice. He had a powerful Image. Harold Walker was one of the three or four reasonable administrators left on campus at "that time. •He'd always take time to talk to you; I could walk In his office at almost any time'.. ■He'd get an enormous amount of work done but he'd sttll have lots of time to,talk to you. If we'd had a half-dozen people like him, that era would have been different. It wouldn't have been nearly so violent or volatile." Walker earned his Bachelor of Arts degree from Whlttler College In 1946. He attended Hartford Theological Seminary for his Masters In 1950. He received his Ph.D. In 1952 from the University of Edinburgh, Scotland. He completed his education at Michigan. Walker was executive vice- president until 1969, when he was relieved of the position amidst political conflict on campus. •He had the campus during a difficult period, and anyone who had any Integrity had to put him self on the line,* said Don Albright, then Dean of Students and now coordinator of services to older adults. ■He bad a very keen, sense of humor, and was a man who laughed very easily. He was a man almost everyone liked: he had that type of personality that attracted people to Urn,» Albright added. Dallas Tuller, former political science Instructor at CSUF, had similar praise for Walker: *1 had great admiration for the man. He had In Impact through Us religious and philosophical background for getting people to understand themselves. He would get at the bottom of things and resolve human relations.* Walker's wife and two children, Ann, 13, and Harold, Jr., H.wIU remain In Fresno. I'm planning on It,* Mrs. Walker said. 'Harold fell In love with Fresno through a combination of personal ai are here In CaUfornla. The association with Fresno State was a good one,* MrS. Walker concluded, 'an we were ahppy to be a pari of It.* Davenport leads ouster Eight economics classes dropped Xontlnued from Page 1) e administration's decision not -e the professors they begged e administration t said. When It wouldn't, Bush the department had no other It was originally Swanson. The office of the vli -president they use It refused to *Tne>' d stead that the acting dean o social science was tn a bettei position to reply to the matter. However, Dr. Richard Spa ngler. who Is replacing Dr. Charles Denton In the social science of- dlscuss the matter. •I'm only the acting dean," Spangler said. "I'm caught In the middle. The department has Its theirs. It's an antagonistic situation." When questioned, he admitted the cancellation of as many as eight classes In one department was unusual, but declined further s the power and how n't want anyone being -ay by a Marxist teaching on Imperialism." Allison said he felt the edepartment were the Issue. Claiming he and his colleagues refused to lie prostituted, he accused Ihe administration of lielng solely body counts and r, and Nlkssarian were appointed to their seats Illegally. But David Bell, Dean of Student Affairs, said lie called Ihe Chancellor's Office In Los Angeles and was advised try Boh Henry, the Chancellor's legal counsel, that the appointments were legal. Davenport said he called Henry when the two were appointed In late June and was told by Henry that he had "viable" objections to their appointments. "Henry said it should be left up to the Student Court todeclde, hut he did say I had recourse open to me In the senate," Davenport said. Davenport said he has made some recommendations to Price about appointments to thestudent Court," but the recommendations are not people who would 'pack the court* In Davenport's favor. . "I looked for a person who was as Impartial as possible," he said. The ones I picked are hardworking and dedicated. I looked for people with their heads together who could analyze a situation.* Dr. Allison noted his department hasn't suffered the enrollment decline of many other departments at the university. Rather, he stressed, many or ating crowded conditions. 'The funny thing Is, we are one ofthe few balanced economics departments In the world," he concluded, claiming most col- gh the appeal process Is In the near future, AUI- n't optimistic When he " of the class cancella- lluebner/ports /Ifi Touring Center ifVM #CI roiptili , Hie Hvrt- J TANG SOO DO acammy of kahati C.S.U.F. SPECIAL! 6-MONTH MEMBERSHIP $£/* YOU'LL STUDY FOR ONLY aJlat AT THE FINEST STUDIO IN THE VALLEY ... 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Title | 1975_09 The Daily Collegian September 1975 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1975 |
Description | Daily (except weekends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif. |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
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Title | Sept 17, 1975 Pg. 2-3 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1975 |
Description | Daily (except weekends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif. |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
Format | Microfilm reels, 35mm. |
Technical Information | Scanned at 600 dpi; TIFF; Microfilm ScanPro 2000 "E-image data" |
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Full-Text-Search | 2-THE DAILY COLLEGIAN Wednesday, September 17, 1975 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR Sorry to hear about Senate Edotor: As a student on thts campus I was very sorry to'learn of the Senate's actions with regards to both Miss Good and Mr. Nlkssarian. I believe the Senate has done a great Injustice to these two student body officers. I especially believe this Is true with Miss Good. As a student custodian in the College Union, I personally have seen Miss Good work not only during the summer week days but also during the summer nights and weekends to prepare the student government for toe Fall semester. I am sure Dave Price could not have asked for a better teammate than Miss Good. But what has Miss Good received for these efforts? The first shabby treatment I personally saw was at the Student Senate meeting July 29. I was working on the top level of the College Union during this meeting. On the doors of the meeting room Miss Good had placed a note giving the meeting time and at Its bottom she had placed her name. But some blockhead had written after Miss Good's name a profane word directed towards her. Yet, with all the traffic going In and out of this meeting room, not one person had the moral courage to simply remove these remarks from the door. In fact, I, myself, had to do this job. Now concerning the constitutionality of Miss Good's and Mr. Nlksarrian's appointment, I cannot help but ask why this Issue did not become a part of the July 29 meeting? In other words, why did the Senate wait until the Fall semester'' Moreover, If Mr. Davenport Is so sure that Miss Good never properly held her office why does he want to pay Miss Good tor her summer work'' To the first of these questions I can only guess. Maytie some of our Senators prefer a Roman circus with cheering crowds to be present while they are doing the cutting. 1/ this Is so, maybe these Senators should be reminded that history is lull of cases where the victors of Roman circuses have become the victims. why he would want to pay Miss Good. Maylie Mr. Davenport's ion- EDITORIAL Resignation only honorable way Beleaguered student vice-presidents Susan Good and David Nlkssarian could save everybody a lot of time by formally resigning at today's Senate meeting, and clearing the way for AS President David Price III to appoint their successors. It Is the only honorable way to end their squalid tenure In office. of I to t • of t Collegian this week portrays the pair as victims. Such a notion is preposterous. Good and Nlkssarian, along with Price and former AS President Steve Moe, have been involved In a fast shuffle since last June. Their conduct In office since then has been undemocratic, devious, and ruthless. Moe. last year's president, appointed this year's vice-presidents, Good and Nlkssarian, after legislative vice-president-elect GeneGlh- son resigned June 24. This group of con persons would have us believe that the appointments were so urgent they couldn't' wait six days until Price took office July I and appointed his own people. You bet the appointments couldn't wait: student Senators have to occupy those positions, and after July 1 neither Good nor Nlkssarian would qualify, though they did under Moe. A novice Senate ratUied the appointments July 12 and has been trying to take back their action for a week. Price won't go along, and the matter will go to a Student Court appointed hy Price, Nlkss tliet I try I f.ivor science hurts. If this la so, Mr Davenport should realize that you their [avor. Meanwhile, Good-Nikssar an opponent David feels rules must tie obeyed he should l*> reminded that others have Davenport will try to rou overlooked the fact that on the night of July 29 he and his fellow a Ihe Court. Senators ocrupled a room In the Union far past closing hours and Sparing us that charade 1 reason enough lor technically could have lieen asked to leave. Cowl and Nlkssarian to res Ign. But another - In closing, 1 would like to remind the Senate to consider the and more Important — reasc eihical question when they look at the constitutional question. A ron- office since July 1. stllutlon Is a living tiling, not a gravestone of rules. SKI I.lll (.,,1 UV for the EOP Summer Institute; and July 29, to meet with representatives of all budgeted areas. VERBAL ABUSE This was the controversial 'verbal abuse- meeting, during which people who had been deceived all summer by the executive officers exploded In anger at them. Despite the bitterness In the air, however, the Senate showed the leadership, maturity, and responsiveness so lacking In Price, Good and Nlkssarian. Senator Gary Nelson, for example, attacked •closed door" meetings like the July 12 one, and called for public notice of Senate hearings. Senator Angle Rlos fought to make sure everyone was heard. Senator David Davenport got busy with his pencil, trying to figure solutions to hudget Impasses. Senator Lola Richmond circulated among all parties, trying to keep The Senate ended that night by granting sub- ' | stantial Increases to people who could Justify them, and cutting the salary boosts It had earlier given to Good, Price and Nlkssarian. Through It all. the trio sat Impassively, dodging well- deserved verbal tomatoes, and watching the Senate undo all that they had done. But after the meeting Good sent two letters to CSUF President Norman Baxter, Price sent a letter. Senator-proxy Jim Halm sent a letter, and Nlkssarian signed one of the Good letters. letters - except Price's, which stressed finances - was that the Senate granted the budget increases July 29 under the threat or physical A picture was painted of an angry mob. Good called the meeting a "melee,* and said she feared she'd "never get out alive." Ham talked about broken teeth, and dwelt at length and In detail on some of the profantty he said he'd heard. Baxter, alarmed, rejected the budget, largely because of these letters. Senators later denied they acted under duress, but the damage was "LAST S For thts writer, the Good letters were the proved that, If they couldn't get what they wanted In open m Ing, they'd go b the truth, and even He, to achieve their e In addition, they were vengeful: th Good those who had been most outspoken against the lad they gone through >u wouldn't be reading the Collegian today. The budget hassle ls over, thanks to the Nlkssarian have proven thetr unfitness for office, whether or not they hold their jobs legally. A tendency to abuse power by seeking revenge through subterfuge and deceit are not leadership qualities. They remind me too much of a recentlwetired U.S. Prest- | Calendar I Noon —MECHA meeting in the International Room of the cafeteria. 2:15 p.m.-The Academic Policy and Planning committee will meet In T 117. 7pjn.-PhI Chi Theta, business /raterntty will meet tn College Union room 308. Business meeting will begin at 7 p.m., pledging of new members at 8 p.m. FRIDAY 8 p.m. — Friday night movie In the College Union Lounge. The movie 'Dirty Harry," will be shown again at 10 p.m. Price expected to veto Good, Nibsorian ouster David Price, president of the Associated Students, said be will veto the Student Senate's resolution that ousted David Nlkssarian as College Union vice-president and Susan Good as legislative vice-president. The veto will come at today's Student Senate meeting at 3 p.m. In CU 305. Student Senator David Davenport, who presented i lutton to oust Ms. Good and Nlkssarian, comment. o tern of the Senate will also hi Wednesday. September 17, 1975 THE DAILY COLLEGIAN-3 Walker humanist during the politically turbulent 1960s Mime troupe here Thursday The San Francisco Mime Troupe, one of the ■ountry's best-known political theater companies, »all appear at CSUF Thursday at noon in the Free Speech area In "Frljoles," an original comedy itxmt the world food crisis. with zany action ranging over three continents, i. locales as diverse as the World Food Conference m.l a jack-tn-the-Box hamburger stand, "Frtjoles* us two hungry couples — one American, one inhbean — against Henry Kissinger andAgrlcul- ure Secretary/food monopolord Earl *Bunz." This farcical mini-musical sets out to explain, in half an hour, why Americans face rising food prices and people In Third World < Its well-Illustrated answer: people are hungry because the world food supply ls rapidly being monopolized by a handful of multi-national corporations and because the U.S. government ls using food as a weapon of economic warfare. Asking such questions, and giving such answers, are habits that cost the Mime Troupe the government and foundation support on which most theaters have to depend and has allowed the group to maintain Its goal of utilizing the theater to liter the political economical structure. The Mime Troupe is a group of more than 10 traveling professional actors presented 'The Mother* to an enthusiastic at CSUF two years^ago. (Continued from Page 1) with a shock of white hair and brilliant blue eyes, and a deep, resonant voice. He had a powerful Image. Harold Walker was one of the three or four reasonable administrators left on campus at "that time. •He'd always take time to talk to you; I could walk In his office at almost any time'.. ■He'd get an enormous amount of work done but he'd sttll have lots of time to,talk to you. If we'd had a half-dozen people like him, that era would have been different. It wouldn't have been nearly so violent or volatile." Walker earned his Bachelor of Arts degree from Whlttler College In 1946. He attended Hartford Theological Seminary for his Masters In 1950. He received his Ph.D. In 1952 from the University of Edinburgh, Scotland. He completed his education at Michigan. Walker was executive vice- president until 1969, when he was relieved of the position amidst political conflict on campus. •He had the campus during a difficult period, and anyone who had any Integrity had to put him self on the line,* said Don Albright, then Dean of Students and now coordinator of services to older adults. ■He bad a very keen, sense of humor, and was a man who laughed very easily. He was a man almost everyone liked: he had that type of personality that attracted people to Urn,» Albright added. Dallas Tuller, former political science Instructor at CSUF, had similar praise for Walker: *1 had great admiration for the man. He had In Impact through Us religious and philosophical background for getting people to understand themselves. He would get at the bottom of things and resolve human relations.* Walker's wife and two children, Ann, 13, and Harold, Jr., H.wIU remain In Fresno. I'm planning on It,* Mrs. Walker said. 'Harold fell In love with Fresno through a combination of personal ai are here In CaUfornla. The association with Fresno State was a good one,* MrS. Walker concluded, 'an we were ahppy to be a pari of It.* Davenport leads ouster Eight economics classes dropped Xontlnued from Page 1) e administration's decision not -e the professors they begged e administration t said. When It wouldn't, Bush the department had no other It was originally Swanson. The office of the vli -president they use It refused to *Tne>' d stead that the acting dean o social science was tn a bettei position to reply to the matter. However, Dr. Richard Spa ngler. who Is replacing Dr. Charles Denton In the social science of- dlscuss the matter. •I'm only the acting dean," Spangler said. "I'm caught In the middle. The department has Its theirs. It's an antagonistic situation." When questioned, he admitted the cancellation of as many as eight classes In one department was unusual, but declined further s the power and how n't want anyone being -ay by a Marxist teaching on Imperialism." Allison said he felt the edepartment were the Issue. Claiming he and his colleagues refused to lie prostituted, he accused Ihe administration of lielng solely body counts and r, and Nlkssarian were appointed to their seats Illegally. But David Bell, Dean of Student Affairs, said lie called Ihe Chancellor's Office In Los Angeles and was advised try Boh Henry, the Chancellor's legal counsel, that the appointments were legal. Davenport said he called Henry when the two were appointed In late June and was told by Henry that he had "viable" objections to their appointments. "Henry said it should be left up to the Student Court todeclde, hut he did say I had recourse open to me In the senate," Davenport said. Davenport said he has made some recommendations to Price about appointments to thestudent Court," but the recommendations are not people who would 'pack the court* In Davenport's favor. . "I looked for a person who was as Impartial as possible," he said. The ones I picked are hardworking and dedicated. I looked for people with their heads together who could analyze a situation.* Dr. Allison noted his department hasn't suffered the enrollment decline of many other departments at the university. Rather, he stressed, many or ating crowded conditions. 'The funny thing Is, we are one ofthe few balanced economics departments In the world," he concluded, claiming most col- gh the appeal process Is In the near future, AUI- n't optimistic When he " of the class cancella- lluebner/ports /Ifi Touring Center ifVM #CI roiptili , Hie Hvrt- J TANG SOO DO acammy of kahati C.S.U.F. SPECIAL! 6-MONTH MEMBERSHIP $£/* YOU'LL STUDY FOR ONLY aJlat AT THE FINEST STUDIO IN THE VALLEY ... 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