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Page 2 EDITORIAL Nov. 6, 1985 Graduation should be held after final exams are finished Yesterday the Associated Students Senate met and heard reports from Legislative Vice President Bob Whalen and Sen. John Love, School of Business, both of whom expressed that AS efforts to change the graduation date as scheduled are now showing dividends. The CS U F administration is listening to what the AS has to say, which is especially good news in this instance. The AS, with solid student backing, is requesting that this May's graduation date be changed until after final examinations. They believe, as does this paper, that to have graduation during final exams week would be detrimental to seniors who want to study for their finals. Having commencement exercises at a time when seniors should be at the books seems absurd in its interference with the educa¬ tional process. Graduation is a landmark in one's lifetime and is celebrated in like proportions. This is an accepted truism; to say otherwise would be unrealistic. Such celebrations, it should be obvious, are not conducive to studying much of anything, and particularly not fop finals. The solution to this evident conflict rests in the AS proposal: let's postpone graduation .until May 24. The answer is a logical one, and it serves those it should be serving. Students who work for years to obtain a degree do so with hope they can conclude those years on a note of happiness. Most importantly, those who reside at the heart of this matter have voiced their support for postponing exercises. /^petition with 1,800 signatures must stand for something. Would such a resounding voice have arisen from a generally apathetic student population if they didn't care about this issue? This will be reaffirmed today when the Public Affairs Commit¬ tee meets this afternoon to devise a proposal for administrative consideration. Then the administration will be in a position to pull off a major public relations coup. President Harold Haak will be able to give seniors the most meaningful gift he could give a graduating class —time to study. Believe it if you will, President Haak: seniors would rather stay in school an extra week before graduating. They want to use that time wisely and celebrate afterwards. Mases bv Tvt Joan aresr thcs street) to »segrcT....* ROTC Commander disturbed, not surprised Editor After reading Sieve Bruhn's article in the Oct. 30 edition Insight's article on Army ROTC*"proposed"rappelIingexer- cise, let me say that I was disturbed but not surprised. Most service people have to deal with this kind of prejudice sometime. But as commander of the Ranger Club (the group that does the rappelling), I felt an obligation, as well as a desire, to answer your comments with my own viewpoint. First of all. let me say thai, as per the article, the demonstration was not per¬ formed because it would have been a safety hazard. Master Sergeant R. Pavia, an expert on rappelling, told me person¬ ally that the moment he heard ofthe idea, he stopped it immediately as it would be foolish to do a helicopter exercise in a closed-up space filled with people such as the stadium. He was concerned not only with the safety of his rappellers. but with the-stadium members as well. Does it sur¬ prise you that a member of Ihe Army is concerned with the public's safety, Mr. Bruhn? Second of all, let me address this form of prejudice I have mentioned. When someone puts on the uniform of the U.S. armed forces, he or she is immediately stereotyped by a large portion of people. 1 can see by your statements, Mr. Bruhn. that you are a member of that portion. People in uniform are seen, generally, as being hateful, reactionary, war-mon-- gers. Well, I'm living proof that there's at least one person in uniform who is the antithesis of these principles. And I assure you, there are many more. You'd be sur¬ prised. However, as a member ofthe col¬ lege community, you should try40 be a little less narrow-minded. I have no doubt lhat you are a reasona¬ bly intelligent individual, Mr Bruhn. But your comments do nol reflect those of someone who has sought out the facts.���Instead, they seem the ravings of one who wishes his name presented to the public eye as a righteous crusader fighting the minions of evil. To your accusation that we are members ofthe world's largest ter¬ rorist organization, 1 can personally say that it's been weeks since I rigged-up a car bomb or sniped at somebody. To close, let me say that if you were to join us at rappelling practice. I as Ranger Commander assure you that you would be welcome and we would teach you a sport that comes to terms with the fear of heights and hones one's attention of safety detail. As for Army ROTC, 1 present to you an institution which instills in every cadet a sense of responsibility, leadership, confidence, and the ability to perform stressful situations with a clear and level Let me ask you one thing: n : one of us on campus in u u close your eyes, take another look, d perhaps ihose pitchforks and horns u see will disappear. James H. Lawrence mCAter^-TVfeCHa&aRTVfc^? The Daily Collegian ^Founded in 1922 Copy Edrtor EMzaaWth liata SporU EdHorBm Zm. PTtoto Mlof Gary Ki Aaal. Photo EAoc-U Grape** F.-tta Gin Falm Buaineaa ManagtrTaaa Mavav ' Advntiaing Managard mrirjr Ikoar of TWfoail. Ce Nov. 6,1985 JJEWS- A FAMILY AFFAIR Election day saw David Hicks buy soliciting last-minute votes In tbe race for three on tbe school board), and nine older candidates. Hicks' father, David, didn 1 see his Fresno School Board positions. He was campaigning on a Fresno street comer son'a age as bHrrt; an obttacit to victory- "Ijaat amra a fault iH»t be can pml\ U off." yesterday for family member Tom Hicks, one of 11 candidates seeking to nil op* of tbe elder Hicks said. But as of lata but night, thinp didn 1 look too good for Hicks. the positions. The youngest candidate ever to ran for the school board, the 22-year- With most of the votes counted, Hicks was far from securing a position in the top old Hicks is s 1985 graduate of UCLA, where be majored in political science. Hicks three. Mary Curry and Ruth Gadebnsch, tbe two incumbents, seemed assured of rsced in uphill bittle In the elections, which were noted for their poor voter turn out. retaining their positions on tbe board, and CSUF linguistics professor Gerald He opposed two incumbents (Incumbents hate never fslled InbMilo retain positions McMenamin held a firm bold on tbe third position. Grad date discussed by AS Senators at yesterday's Associated Stu¬ dents Senate meeting were- told their efforts at changing the graduation dates for 1986-87 were affecting university administration decisions. " What we 're d o i ng i s actually having an effect on the administration,"announed Sen. John Love, chairman ofthe Public Affairs Committee. Love is spearheading an effort which aims to change the currently scheduled t date of May 17, during final exam week, to May 24, Memorial Day weekend, after finals are completed. Legislative Vice President Bob Whalen told the Senate that he received a phone call yesterday from Dean of Student Affairs William Corcoran. "He didn't seea problem with changing the graduation date," said Whalen. "Now the ball is pretty much in our court. We got lo make a recommendation to Presi¬ dent (Harold) Haak." To come up with a "counterproposal" to the date devised by the administration, Kibbutz Dance Company performs interpretive ballet it-garde-1 Thecc impany was formed IS years ago by Yehudit Arnon in Kibbutz Ga'aton in Western Galilee. The performance was a feature of the University Lecture Series. Currently on iu seventh overseas tour, the company has received favorable re¬ views in New York and Denver this year. From Fresno, the dancers will travel to San Francisco. All the members of the company are also members of the Kibbutzim. They traveled to ArnonTi kibbutz to become Boa* Cohen, 23, described the kibbutz "like a big farm." "It is a way of life based on communal society,"he explained. "It's likea big farm with a residential area surrounded by fields." Cohen said that all the members have jobs and work eight hours a day but dont "All Ihe money goes to the kibbutz and the members receive a budget for their needs, like food and clothing," be said. He explained that the members of the company dance al Anion's kibbutz about five days a week. Then they go to their own kibbutzim to work one day. tee KIBBUTZ, pa** 5 the Public Affairs Committee meets today at 2:30 p.m. in the College Union. Com¬ mittee members are expected to target May 24 as graduation day. The most obvious reason for the change of dates, say Senators, is that the adminis¬ tration's proposed date falls during the midst of finals week, which interferes with study time. A strongly worded resolution passed unanimously last week by^the Senate urged thc administration to "have fore¬ sight and avoid scheduling any subse¬ quent graduation ceremonies during finals week." A petition circulated by Senators also gained support from studenu for a date change. So far, about 1,800 signatures have been collected. Whalen said after the meeting that tbe administration's phone call is a sign they are taking notice and may be open to a change of dales. Whalen expressed confidence tbe admin¬ istration would ultimately change the com¬ mencement date. President Haak makes the final determination, said Whalen, and he "traditionally listens to studenU." Whalen reported he looked into when studenu livingSn CSUF-area apanmenu have to vacate and found lhat various apartment complexes will nol ask resi¬ dents to leave until after the AS-proposed graduation date. Whalen found rcsidenU of the Califor¬ nia ns, Meadowwood A part menu,tb« Vil¬ lage and Cedar Commons are required to give 30 days notice before vacating. Resi¬ dents of Blue Ridge, meanwhile, must be out by tbe end ofthe month, and residenu of Bulldog Lane Village must be out by May 25, said Whalen. But Whalen also acknowledged dormi¬ tory residents must vacate by the last day of final examinations. He said, however, that they should be able to find a place to stay until after gradution. In other matters. Love reported that he thought the remaining student season basketball tickets left would be sold. At 159 re "It really looks good that we can sell all those tickeu," Love said. Marathons irk several AS officials Yesterday's meeting of the Associated Studenu lasted four hours, twice as long as Legislative Vice President Bob Whalen and some others like to spend in meeting. Some, such as Sen. John Love, School of Business and Administrative Sciences, Sen. Pat Broderick. School of Agricul¬ ture, Home Economics and Industrial Arts, and Sen. Quinn Koller, Pro-Tern —noted that many ofthe things that were being asked at yesterday's meeting had already been discussed ir -Why have all these c we're going to be spinning o here?" asked Broderick. "We're asking the exact sar that were asked in committee," said Love. One possible solution, said Koller, is
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Title | 1985_11 The Daily Collegian November 1985 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1985 |
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Title | Nov 6, 1985 Pg. 2-3 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1985 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
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Full-Text-Search | Page 2 EDITORIAL Nov. 6, 1985 Graduation should be held after final exams are finished Yesterday the Associated Students Senate met and heard reports from Legislative Vice President Bob Whalen and Sen. John Love, School of Business, both of whom expressed that AS efforts to change the graduation date as scheduled are now showing dividends. The CS U F administration is listening to what the AS has to say, which is especially good news in this instance. The AS, with solid student backing, is requesting that this May's graduation date be changed until after final examinations. They believe, as does this paper, that to have graduation during final exams week would be detrimental to seniors who want to study for their finals. Having commencement exercises at a time when seniors should be at the books seems absurd in its interference with the educa¬ tional process. Graduation is a landmark in one's lifetime and is celebrated in like proportions. This is an accepted truism; to say otherwise would be unrealistic. Such celebrations, it should be obvious, are not conducive to studying much of anything, and particularly not fop finals. The solution to this evident conflict rests in the AS proposal: let's postpone graduation .until May 24. The answer is a logical one, and it serves those it should be serving. Students who work for years to obtain a degree do so with hope they can conclude those years on a note of happiness. Most importantly, those who reside at the heart of this matter have voiced their support for postponing exercises. /^petition with 1,800 signatures must stand for something. Would such a resounding voice have arisen from a generally apathetic student population if they didn't care about this issue? This will be reaffirmed today when the Public Affairs Commit¬ tee meets this afternoon to devise a proposal for administrative consideration. Then the administration will be in a position to pull off a major public relations coup. President Harold Haak will be able to give seniors the most meaningful gift he could give a graduating class —time to study. Believe it if you will, President Haak: seniors would rather stay in school an extra week before graduating. They want to use that time wisely and celebrate afterwards. Mases bv Tvt Joan aresr thcs street) to »segrcT....* ROTC Commander disturbed, not surprised Editor After reading Sieve Bruhn's article in the Oct. 30 edition Insight's article on Army ROTC*"proposed"rappelIingexer- cise, let me say that I was disturbed but not surprised. Most service people have to deal with this kind of prejudice sometime. But as commander of the Ranger Club (the group that does the rappelling), I felt an obligation, as well as a desire, to answer your comments with my own viewpoint. First of all. let me say thai, as per the article, the demonstration was not per¬ formed because it would have been a safety hazard. Master Sergeant R. Pavia, an expert on rappelling, told me person¬ ally that the moment he heard ofthe idea, he stopped it immediately as it would be foolish to do a helicopter exercise in a closed-up space filled with people such as the stadium. He was concerned not only with the safety of his rappellers. but with the-stadium members as well. Does it sur¬ prise you that a member of Ihe Army is concerned with the public's safety, Mr. Bruhn? Second of all, let me address this form of prejudice I have mentioned. When someone puts on the uniform of the U.S. armed forces, he or she is immediately stereotyped by a large portion of people. 1 can see by your statements, Mr. Bruhn. that you are a member of that portion. People in uniform are seen, generally, as being hateful, reactionary, war-mon-- gers. Well, I'm living proof that there's at least one person in uniform who is the antithesis of these principles. And I assure you, there are many more. You'd be sur¬ prised. However, as a member ofthe col¬ lege community, you should try40 be a little less narrow-minded. I have no doubt lhat you are a reasona¬ bly intelligent individual, Mr Bruhn. But your comments do nol reflect those of someone who has sought out the facts.���Instead, they seem the ravings of one who wishes his name presented to the public eye as a righteous crusader fighting the minions of evil. To your accusation that we are members ofthe world's largest ter¬ rorist organization, 1 can personally say that it's been weeks since I rigged-up a car bomb or sniped at somebody. To close, let me say that if you were to join us at rappelling practice. I as Ranger Commander assure you that you would be welcome and we would teach you a sport that comes to terms with the fear of heights and hones one's attention of safety detail. As for Army ROTC, 1 present to you an institution which instills in every cadet a sense of responsibility, leadership, confidence, and the ability to perform stressful situations with a clear and level Let me ask you one thing: n : one of us on campus in u u close your eyes, take another look, d perhaps ihose pitchforks and horns u see will disappear. James H. Lawrence mCAter^-TVfeCHa&aRTVfc^? The Daily Collegian ^Founded in 1922 Copy Edrtor EMzaaWth liata SporU EdHorBm Zm. PTtoto Mlof Gary Ki Aaal. Photo EAoc-U Grape** F.-tta Gin Falm Buaineaa ManagtrTaaa Mavav ' Advntiaing Managard mrirjr Ikoar of TWfoail. Ce Nov. 6,1985 JJEWS- A FAMILY AFFAIR Election day saw David Hicks buy soliciting last-minute votes In tbe race for three on tbe school board), and nine older candidates. Hicks' father, David, didn 1 see his Fresno School Board positions. He was campaigning on a Fresno street comer son'a age as bHrrt; an obttacit to victory- "Ijaat amra a fault iH»t be can pml\ U off." yesterday for family member Tom Hicks, one of 11 candidates seeking to nil op* of tbe elder Hicks said. But as of lata but night, thinp didn 1 look too good for Hicks. the positions. The youngest candidate ever to ran for the school board, the 22-year- With most of the votes counted, Hicks was far from securing a position in the top old Hicks is s 1985 graduate of UCLA, where be majored in political science. Hicks three. Mary Curry and Ruth Gadebnsch, tbe two incumbents, seemed assured of rsced in uphill bittle In the elections, which were noted for their poor voter turn out. retaining their positions on tbe board, and CSUF linguistics professor Gerald He opposed two incumbents (Incumbents hate never fslled InbMilo retain positions McMenamin held a firm bold on tbe third position. Grad date discussed by AS Senators at yesterday's Associated Stu¬ dents Senate meeting were- told their efforts at changing the graduation dates for 1986-87 were affecting university administration decisions. " What we 're d o i ng i s actually having an effect on the administration,"announed Sen. John Love, chairman ofthe Public Affairs Committee. Love is spearheading an effort which aims to change the currently scheduled t date of May 17, during final exam week, to May 24, Memorial Day weekend, after finals are completed. Legislative Vice President Bob Whalen told the Senate that he received a phone call yesterday from Dean of Student Affairs William Corcoran. "He didn't seea problem with changing the graduation date," said Whalen. "Now the ball is pretty much in our court. We got lo make a recommendation to Presi¬ dent (Harold) Haak." To come up with a "counterproposal" to the date devised by the administration, Kibbutz Dance Company performs interpretive ballet it-garde-1 Thecc impany was formed IS years ago by Yehudit Arnon in Kibbutz Ga'aton in Western Galilee. The performance was a feature of the University Lecture Series. Currently on iu seventh overseas tour, the company has received favorable re¬ views in New York and Denver this year. From Fresno, the dancers will travel to San Francisco. All the members of the company are also members of the Kibbutzim. They traveled to ArnonTi kibbutz to become Boa* Cohen, 23, described the kibbutz "like a big farm." "It is a way of life based on communal society,"he explained. "It's likea big farm with a residential area surrounded by fields." Cohen said that all the members have jobs and work eight hours a day but dont "All Ihe money goes to the kibbutz and the members receive a budget for their needs, like food and clothing," be said. He explained that the members of the company dance al Anion's kibbutz about five days a week. Then they go to their own kibbutzim to work one day. tee KIBBUTZ, pa** 5 the Public Affairs Committee meets today at 2:30 p.m. in the College Union. Com¬ mittee members are expected to target May 24 as graduation day. The most obvious reason for the change of dates, say Senators, is that the adminis¬ tration's proposed date falls during the midst of finals week, which interferes with study time. A strongly worded resolution passed unanimously last week by^the Senate urged thc administration to "have fore¬ sight and avoid scheduling any subse¬ quent graduation ceremonies during finals week." A petition circulated by Senators also gained support from studenu for a date change. So far, about 1,800 signatures have been collected. Whalen said after the meeting that tbe administration's phone call is a sign they are taking notice and may be open to a change of dales. Whalen expressed confidence tbe admin¬ istration would ultimately change the com¬ mencement date. President Haak makes the final determination, said Whalen, and he "traditionally listens to studenU." Whalen reported he looked into when studenu livingSn CSUF-area apanmenu have to vacate and found lhat various apartment complexes will nol ask resi¬ dents to leave until after the AS-proposed graduation date. Whalen found rcsidenU of the Califor¬ nia ns, Meadowwood A part menu,tb« Vil¬ lage and Cedar Commons are required to give 30 days notice before vacating. Resi¬ dents of Blue Ridge, meanwhile, must be out by tbe end ofthe month, and residenu of Bulldog Lane Village must be out by May 25, said Whalen. But Whalen also acknowledged dormi¬ tory residents must vacate by the last day of final examinations. He said, however, that they should be able to find a place to stay until after gradution. In other matters. Love reported that he thought the remaining student season basketball tickets left would be sold. At 159 re "It really looks good that we can sell all those tickeu," Love said. Marathons irk several AS officials Yesterday's meeting of the Associated Studenu lasted four hours, twice as long as Legislative Vice President Bob Whalen and some others like to spend in meeting. Some, such as Sen. John Love, School of Business and Administrative Sciences, Sen. Pat Broderick. School of Agricul¬ ture, Home Economics and Industrial Arts, and Sen. Quinn Koller, Pro-Tern —noted that many ofthe things that were being asked at yesterday's meeting had already been discussed ir -Why have all these c we're going to be spinning o here?" asked Broderick. "We're asking the exact sar that were asked in committee," said Love. One possible solution, said Koller, is |