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Peoe 6/December 4,1981 -Deify Collealan Instructor campus representative for the Latino students during that time. She says she has no regrets about those times and would do everything all over 'I'm glad I was a part of that gener¬ ation,' she said, sitting in her office chair. 'I look at them as-what word could I use—hopeful times.' She added, "Now I don't see a lot of hope and that hurts the country.* Ybarra-Soriano said that activism is no longer a part of today's students. 'I feel the students today want to get out quickly and get a job,' she said. "They're not interested in social issues. That's not to say no one is in¬ terested in these things, it's just not She praised students who are ac- 'I admire the students today who are involved who have kept that hope alive, that they can do something,' she said, straightening her velvet blue blazer. Being involved and striving for higher education is an asset the youth¬ ful professor attributes to her parents. She said her two sisters and brother are also active in the community and all have gone to college. She said that through her parents constant en¬ couragement, she strove to get as much education as she could She added with a laugh that her parents bragged so much about her efforts in school, that she had to succeed so she wouldn 't let them down. Before starting her doctorate de¬ gree, Ybarra-Soriano was a parole officer. But she quit after being dis¬ illusioned with the system. *l went into the job too idealistic,' she said. *l thought I could change the system.' She said that because the parole system is so entrenched in itself, she could not change anything. One day she decided she didn't care anymore, and that's when she decided to hand in her resignation. She then decided to get her PhD., which she received four years ago. Ybarra-Soriano tries to involve herself in as much as she can. She is in the process of editing a co-authored fiction novel, which, she said, is a multi-generational saga of a Chi¬ cano family in this country. Ybarra Soriano is also starting an analysis project of working women in the United States. She pointed glee¬ fully to the foot-high stack of research data that she had just received. 'I'm really excited about it,' she Over the summer, Ybarra-Soriano said that she also did some research at the University of Michigan's re¬ search center. The dark-haired pro¬ fessor said she, along with others that were selected from around the country, gathered data on the Chicano family. Ybarra-Soriano said this is the most extensive research every done on Chi¬ canos in the United States and should provide valuable information for the future. . When Ybarra-Soriano is pot doing research, she is writing articles for magazines, or speaking to educa¬ tors at conferences. She said she also loves filmmaking and was accepted to Stanford Uni¬ versity to study film. Even though she did not attend, she still partakes in the filmmaking process. For example, she helped design a slide presentation called Teach,' which tells about the many contri¬ butions Chicanos have made in . the San Joaquin Valley. She said she has designed other learning materials for the "Teach' project, as well. Ybarra-Soriano said that she would like to make a documentary film about the history of Chicanos. She said little has been written or filmed about the race, and that the material that has, is based on old stereotypical views. 'The most crucial medium today is film,* she said. 'It's important be¬ cause it can serve to educate the public about the positive as well at the neg¬ ative. They (the media) haven't done that as much as they could.' She said that both good and bad should be depicted, but that it should be balanced. 'No group is perfect, but we also have well-educated individuals who contributed a lot to the community who haven't been recognized,' she said. As she speaks, one can see the activist that was, the determined per¬ son that lives today. Asked if she has ever 'dropped' some of the activities she is involved with, she says, 'I 've dropped some things, but the trick is not to let people know they've fallen." Hyouthink"highbicK".s discrimination against tall people, you're not ready tor New Memorex. High bias tape is specially-formu¬ lated to deliver remarkably improved sound reproduction, particularly in the higher frequencies. And no high bias tape does that better than totally new Memorex HIGH BIAS II. We've developed a unique new formulation of superfine ferrite crys¬ tal oxide particles. And while that's a mouthful to say, it delivers an earful of results. Singers ring out more clearty. Snare drums snap and cymbals shimmer with startling crispness. Even quiet passages sound clearer. Because new Memorex HIGH BIAS II has 4 to 5dB lower noise. Which means dramatically reduced tape hiss. And thanks to Permapass,"" our extraordinary new binding process, the music you put on the tape stays on the tape. Play after play, even after 1,000 plays. In fact, new reproduction. Or we'll replace it. Free. So trust your next recording to new Memorex. In HIGH BIAS II, normal • bias MRX I or METAL IV. As a discriminating tape user, ' you'll have a high opinion of the ■ Reody?GetaMemorex ! HIGH BIAS II Cassette for F». I Send us the coupon with SL00 check or money order payable to -Memorex." and well send you a HIGH BIAS IIC-90 (sugg. reta.1 prco | J6.99) Mail to. MEMOREX. P.O. Box 2899. RedsviHe. NC27322. 1 I L L- ssfc I KrW«0-u-TIiUiI> I OTAflbtinUVhVMHn -*-' .^JUa^ I MEMOREX I It CSUF's writers Crafting life into fiction Nineteen-year-old Creg Gatther has already passed one of the tests that confront a serious writer-the ability to accept a rejection slip. The sophomore English major had some poetry rejected by a magazine, but with a shrug of his shoulders conceded, 'It's all part of the game.' The first rejection slip was very hard,* he said. 'It was the first poem I had submitted and I haven't triedinayearorso.' The note read 'Poetry Northwest reads 40,000 poems a year...' 'It was a form rejection,' Caither said. 'It was discouraging, but now I look back on it and I look at the poems and I think, 'No wonder.' They were terrible.* If you could write a book with a simple formula for becoming a best-selling author, you would probably have a best-selling book. The paradox is plain. But as Caither can tell you, the formula is not. CSUF English professors Charles Hanzikek and Andrew Simmons list discipline, extensive reading and writing, and life experience as important tools for writers. And while they and others in the Department of English may be able to pass on some of the funda¬ mentals of writingt they can offer no guarantee for success, even oh a limited scale. As instructors, they tend to downplay the impor¬ tance of publishing at this stage, and instead en¬ courage the development of writing as craft. According to Simmons, some students come into the course with the idea they are going to 'write a novel, get rich, make a million dollars and become next year's Harold Robblns.' But they find it does n' t work quite that easily. 'Publishing is the least important part,* said Hanzlicek. 'They have to see writing as something that is done for themselves, and that's pretty valu¬ able.' 'I don't think anybody should go into writing thinking thev are going to have monetarv satisfac¬ tion," he said, talking of corporate takeovers of publishing companies and the end of the family publishing businesses. 'Harlequin romances are the envy of the publish¬ ing business because they make a lot of money.' Simmons believes most of the students coming through his writing classes recognize 'that the odds against making a living at writing are fantastically high.' 'I 'm not sure that there are that many students who are looking for a career in writing,' Simmons said. "You can't go out and apply for a job like you can go out and apply for a job at IBM. It's an oddball thing. "There's no guarantee you re going to get paid for it (writing), or you're going to get published or read. If you stick at it three or four years, or even 10 years, and you don't get anything published, you might get discouraged. There's no promise you'll ever get published." ■t Hanzlicek, who has published a few poetry books of his own work, said there isn't the pos.ii making a living in poetry.'Not unless you're Rod McKuen, and thereby you're not a poet by defini¬ tion,'he added with a smile. Hanzlicek and Simmons seem to push the idea of publishing away and concentrate on guiding stu¬ dents in developing their skills. -I don't think a teacher caii make a writer," Simmons said. "You can help them, give them feed¬ back when they're going astray, when they are using cliches. "The work has to come from within.' Hanzlicek agreed. /'You can teach people how to use language more effectively,' he said, but, 'talent, if you will. Is The teaching of these courses is a little differ¬ ent than the teaching of other courses,' Simmons said. 'You're trying to teach a skill. It's a little bit like being an athletic coach. You can't give them natural ability, but you can help them along." "I try to get them to do the best they are capable of doing,' Hanzlicek said. "Sometimes people who are writing on their own don't know what they are capable of doing. It's teaching them to be dissatis¬ fied.' Part of the problem for young people who are just beginning to write, according to Hanzlicek, is a lack of subject matter. 'They haven't lived that much.' He cites discipline as the hardest part in writing, 'Just realizing that you owe the reader some work, that everything that comes out of you Is not poetry until you shape it into a poem,* is difficult, he said. 'People outside of poetry tend to think it's very natural. The first thing that comes out is not poetry,' Hanzlicek continued. 'It's only the idea. After that, it's blood, sweat and tears. The longer they write, the more likely It is to come out looking like a poem. 'It's like playing the piano; if you don't practice, you can't play.* Hanzlicek said improvement in students is some¬ times hard to detect, but at other times 'it seems like lightning strikes. They get dramatically better and stay that way.' Writing generally gets easier with time, Hanzlicek said, 'But it never gets easy.* Caither has also written some short stories, but is concentrating on poetry now. *l would like to spend every day writing poetry, but it doesn't work out that way,' he said. 'A lot of times I'll sit down with paper and a pen and nothing happens. Two or three nights a week I sit down and get things done. The easiness of his smile matched the intensity with which he talked about his work. -Sometimes I can spend three hours on some¬ thing and say, 'Cod! That's not going anywhere,' and throw it away. Sometimes I think of an idea or something that has happened, I just look at the paper and let things happen.' As a student at CSUF, Caither considers himself lucky to have such poets on the faculty as Hanzlicek, Philip Levine and Peter Everwine. 'I like all their stuff," he said, but added that he had no particular "Cod-poet.'* Caither's work has been evolving since his inter¬ est in literature started in junior high school. "I'd get an assignment from an English teacher and I'd make it into a story,* he said. 'I've always been fascinated by literature. In junior high or the ninth grade I started reading novels like crazy. In high school, I started being exposed to poetry. "lused to play with rhymes; that's what I was ex¬ posed to, the older stuff that rhymed. I look back on some of the stuff I've written and laugh. It changes with everything I write.' Caither said his current writing includes some childhood recollections and recent experiences. 'Last night I sat down and wrote about a small town that I went through last summer," he said. 'Sometimes I get an idea while walking, and I think that that would be a good subject. "I 've got a lot of the world to see, and I think the more things I see and the more I am exposed to literature, the easier it will be to write. " A future in writing depends on a lot of factors, WRITERS continued on page 8 Some students begin a college English course with the idea that they are going to 'write a novel, get rich, make a million dollars and become next year's Harold Robbinsl But professors say don't ask for too mu6h, too soon.
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Title | 1981_12 The Daily Collegian December 1981 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1981 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
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Title | Dec 4, 1981 Pg. 6-7 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1981 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
Technical Information | Scanned at 600 dpi; TIFF; Microfilm ScanPro 2000 "E-image data" |
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Full-Text-Search | Peoe 6/December 4,1981 -Deify Collealan Instructor campus representative for the Latino students during that time. She says she has no regrets about those times and would do everything all over 'I'm glad I was a part of that gener¬ ation,' she said, sitting in her office chair. 'I look at them as-what word could I use—hopeful times.' She added, "Now I don't see a lot of hope and that hurts the country.* Ybarra-Soriano said that activism is no longer a part of today's students. 'I feel the students today want to get out quickly and get a job,' she said. "They're not interested in social issues. That's not to say no one is in¬ terested in these things, it's just not She praised students who are ac- 'I admire the students today who are involved who have kept that hope alive, that they can do something,' she said, straightening her velvet blue blazer. Being involved and striving for higher education is an asset the youth¬ ful professor attributes to her parents. She said her two sisters and brother are also active in the community and all have gone to college. She said that through her parents constant en¬ couragement, she strove to get as much education as she could She added with a laugh that her parents bragged so much about her efforts in school, that she had to succeed so she wouldn 't let them down. Before starting her doctorate de¬ gree, Ybarra-Soriano was a parole officer. But she quit after being dis¬ illusioned with the system. *l went into the job too idealistic,' she said. *l thought I could change the system.' She said that because the parole system is so entrenched in itself, she could not change anything. One day she decided she didn't care anymore, and that's when she decided to hand in her resignation. She then decided to get her PhD., which she received four years ago. Ybarra-Soriano tries to involve herself in as much as she can. She is in the process of editing a co-authored fiction novel, which, she said, is a multi-generational saga of a Chi¬ cano family in this country. Ybarra Soriano is also starting an analysis project of working women in the United States. She pointed glee¬ fully to the foot-high stack of research data that she had just received. 'I'm really excited about it,' she Over the summer, Ybarra-Soriano said that she also did some research at the University of Michigan's re¬ search center. The dark-haired pro¬ fessor said she, along with others that were selected from around the country, gathered data on the Chicano family. Ybarra-Soriano said this is the most extensive research every done on Chi¬ canos in the United States and should provide valuable information for the future. . When Ybarra-Soriano is pot doing research, she is writing articles for magazines, or speaking to educa¬ tors at conferences. She said she also loves filmmaking and was accepted to Stanford Uni¬ versity to study film. Even though she did not attend, she still partakes in the filmmaking process. For example, she helped design a slide presentation called Teach,' which tells about the many contri¬ butions Chicanos have made in . the San Joaquin Valley. She said she has designed other learning materials for the "Teach' project, as well. Ybarra-Soriano said that she would like to make a documentary film about the history of Chicanos. She said little has been written or filmed about the race, and that the material that has, is based on old stereotypical views. 'The most crucial medium today is film,* she said. 'It's important be¬ cause it can serve to educate the public about the positive as well at the neg¬ ative. They (the media) haven't done that as much as they could.' She said that both good and bad should be depicted, but that it should be balanced. 'No group is perfect, but we also have well-educated individuals who contributed a lot to the community who haven't been recognized,' she said. As she speaks, one can see the activist that was, the determined per¬ son that lives today. Asked if she has ever 'dropped' some of the activities she is involved with, she says, 'I 've dropped some things, but the trick is not to let people know they've fallen." Hyouthink"highbicK".s discrimination against tall people, you're not ready tor New Memorex. High bias tape is specially-formu¬ lated to deliver remarkably improved sound reproduction, particularly in the higher frequencies. And no high bias tape does that better than totally new Memorex HIGH BIAS II. We've developed a unique new formulation of superfine ferrite crys¬ tal oxide particles. And while that's a mouthful to say, it delivers an earful of results. Singers ring out more clearty. Snare drums snap and cymbals shimmer with startling crispness. Even quiet passages sound clearer. Because new Memorex HIGH BIAS II has 4 to 5dB lower noise. Which means dramatically reduced tape hiss. And thanks to Permapass,"" our extraordinary new binding process, the music you put on the tape stays on the tape. Play after play, even after 1,000 plays. In fact, new reproduction. Or we'll replace it. Free. So trust your next recording to new Memorex. In HIGH BIAS II, normal • bias MRX I or METAL IV. As a discriminating tape user, ' you'll have a high opinion of the ■ Reody?GetaMemorex ! HIGH BIAS II Cassette for F». I Send us the coupon with SL00 check or money order payable to -Memorex." and well send you a HIGH BIAS IIC-90 (sugg. reta.1 prco | J6.99) Mail to. MEMOREX. P.O. Box 2899. RedsviHe. NC27322. 1 I L L- ssfc I KrW«0-u-TIiUiI> I OTAflbtinUVhVMHn -*-' .^JUa^ I MEMOREX I It CSUF's writers Crafting life into fiction Nineteen-year-old Creg Gatther has already passed one of the tests that confront a serious writer-the ability to accept a rejection slip. The sophomore English major had some poetry rejected by a magazine, but with a shrug of his shoulders conceded, 'It's all part of the game.' The first rejection slip was very hard,* he said. 'It was the first poem I had submitted and I haven't triedinayearorso.' The note read 'Poetry Northwest reads 40,000 poems a year...' 'It was a form rejection,' Caither said. 'It was discouraging, but now I look back on it and I look at the poems and I think, 'No wonder.' They were terrible.* If you could write a book with a simple formula for becoming a best-selling author, you would probably have a best-selling book. The paradox is plain. But as Caither can tell you, the formula is not. CSUF English professors Charles Hanzikek and Andrew Simmons list discipline, extensive reading and writing, and life experience as important tools for writers. And while they and others in the Department of English may be able to pass on some of the funda¬ mentals of writingt they can offer no guarantee for success, even oh a limited scale. As instructors, they tend to downplay the impor¬ tance of publishing at this stage, and instead en¬ courage the development of writing as craft. According to Simmons, some students come into the course with the idea they are going to 'write a novel, get rich, make a million dollars and become next year's Harold Robblns.' But they find it does n' t work quite that easily. 'Publishing is the least important part,* said Hanzlicek. 'They have to see writing as something that is done for themselves, and that's pretty valu¬ able.' 'I don't think anybody should go into writing thinking thev are going to have monetarv satisfac¬ tion," he said, talking of corporate takeovers of publishing companies and the end of the family publishing businesses. 'Harlequin romances are the envy of the publish¬ ing business because they make a lot of money.' Simmons believes most of the students coming through his writing classes recognize 'that the odds against making a living at writing are fantastically high.' 'I 'm not sure that there are that many students who are looking for a career in writing,' Simmons said. "You can't go out and apply for a job like you can go out and apply for a job at IBM. It's an oddball thing. "There's no guarantee you re going to get paid for it (writing), or you're going to get published or read. If you stick at it three or four years, or even 10 years, and you don't get anything published, you might get discouraged. There's no promise you'll ever get published." ■t Hanzlicek, who has published a few poetry books of his own work, said there isn't the pos.ii making a living in poetry.'Not unless you're Rod McKuen, and thereby you're not a poet by defini¬ tion,'he added with a smile. Hanzlicek and Simmons seem to push the idea of publishing away and concentrate on guiding stu¬ dents in developing their skills. -I don't think a teacher caii make a writer," Simmons said. "You can help them, give them feed¬ back when they're going astray, when they are using cliches. "The work has to come from within.' Hanzlicek agreed. /'You can teach people how to use language more effectively,' he said, but, 'talent, if you will. Is The teaching of these courses is a little differ¬ ent than the teaching of other courses,' Simmons said. 'You're trying to teach a skill. It's a little bit like being an athletic coach. You can't give them natural ability, but you can help them along." "I try to get them to do the best they are capable of doing,' Hanzlicek said. "Sometimes people who are writing on their own don't know what they are capable of doing. It's teaching them to be dissatis¬ fied.' Part of the problem for young people who are just beginning to write, according to Hanzlicek, is a lack of subject matter. 'They haven't lived that much.' He cites discipline as the hardest part in writing, 'Just realizing that you owe the reader some work, that everything that comes out of you Is not poetry until you shape it into a poem,* is difficult, he said. 'People outside of poetry tend to think it's very natural. The first thing that comes out is not poetry,' Hanzlicek continued. 'It's only the idea. After that, it's blood, sweat and tears. The longer they write, the more likely It is to come out looking like a poem. 'It's like playing the piano; if you don't practice, you can't play.* Hanzlicek said improvement in students is some¬ times hard to detect, but at other times 'it seems like lightning strikes. They get dramatically better and stay that way.' Writing generally gets easier with time, Hanzlicek said, 'But it never gets easy.* Caither has also written some short stories, but is concentrating on poetry now. *l would like to spend every day writing poetry, but it doesn't work out that way,' he said. 'A lot of times I'll sit down with paper and a pen and nothing happens. Two or three nights a week I sit down and get things done. The easiness of his smile matched the intensity with which he talked about his work. -Sometimes I can spend three hours on some¬ thing and say, 'Cod! That's not going anywhere,' and throw it away. Sometimes I think of an idea or something that has happened, I just look at the paper and let things happen.' As a student at CSUF, Caither considers himself lucky to have such poets on the faculty as Hanzlicek, Philip Levine and Peter Everwine. 'I like all their stuff," he said, but added that he had no particular "Cod-poet.'* Caither's work has been evolving since his inter¬ est in literature started in junior high school. "I'd get an assignment from an English teacher and I'd make it into a story,* he said. 'I've always been fascinated by literature. In junior high or the ninth grade I started reading novels like crazy. In high school, I started being exposed to poetry. "lused to play with rhymes; that's what I was ex¬ posed to, the older stuff that rhymed. I look back on some of the stuff I've written and laugh. It changes with everything I write.' Caither said his current writing includes some childhood recollections and recent experiences. 'Last night I sat down and wrote about a small town that I went through last summer," he said. 'Sometimes I get an idea while walking, and I think that that would be a good subject. "I 've got a lot of the world to see, and I think the more things I see and the more I am exposed to literature, the easier it will be to write. " A future in writing depends on a lot of factors, WRITERS continued on page 8 Some students begin a college English course with the idea that they are going to 'write a novel, get rich, make a million dollars and become next year's Harold Robbinsl But professors say don't ask for too mu6h, too soon. |