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Paae 8/ November 13,1961—Dally Collegian ^mxt^mx^ Breaking the racial barriers Students need to be more color blind, students and administrators say - 'MY hope is that the new change In the G.E. requirements will bring about more of an understanding' Like oil and water, the ethnic races of Americans at CSUF are hav¬ ing a hard time mixing. The general consensus oi students at CSUF said the reason blacks, Chicanos and whites segregate them¬ selves from each other is, as one white student said, "There really is a difference between us." "It's just different cultures," said John Wells, a black senior biology major. "I get together with whites to study just because I don't have any blacks in my classes. But not to In 18%, black and white people were legally separated in America, after being customarily separated for 280 years before that. They were con¬ sidered "equal/ but separate,' as a result of the Supreme Court case, Plessy vs Ferguson. Separate toilets were used, separate drinking foun¬ tains, even separate cemeteries. In court, blacks took oaths on separate Bibles. On the bus, they sat in the bade, | 'Is there a whole lot of difference now?' asked Dr. Robert Mikell, Black Studies coordinator at CSUF. The laws have changed drastically, the attitudes are changing slowly, but the story is the same. Blacks, whites and browns remain largely socially mon with white people. 'If a group of blacks get together and talk about music, we'd be talk¬ ing about Quincy Jones or some¬ one,' he said. 'When a group of whites Ulk, it's about Pink Floyd.. * For that reason, Goodwin said he prefers to be around black people. 'I'm not saying it's best,* he said. 'It's just more natural.' In the College Union or the" cafeteria, the segregation is most noticeable. The different colors are grouped together and there is little intermingling. 'It's obvious on this campus. If you go into the cafeteria you see it all the time," said Peter Klassen, they yell at each other and talk about their mommas, but they don't get into a fight,' he said. 'When whites start yelling, there's going to be a fight.* Powell said he does not think it is wrong to generalize like this. *We all stereotype,' he explained. 'That's not bad. It's what we do with that information that matters.' Education is the key that will bring the races together, said Powell. He said blacks have already learned about white people. He said white people should learn more about blacks. "School is based on white middle- class ethics. So if you make it 'WE all stereotype.That's not bad. It's what we do with that information that matters' r of skin color," 'It's all said Mikell. The three predominant races in this country tend to go their own ways. Some call it 'voluntary segre¬ gation' and it seems to be happening everywhere. Even CSUF. The reasons for the separatism seem to be deeper than Just skin color, however. The difference also seems to be cultural and historical. Some people at CSUF think the and socially, do not dick. time,' said Paul Goodwin, a I black junior chemistry major. 'It may be jokingly, but you get tired of dean of the School of Social Sciences. •Like seeks like. Blacks tend to as¬ sociate with blacks and whites do the same. It's a matter of habit.* One white female on campus said the reason she thinks there is segregation is because of the 'pre¬ judice of both groups. When you're not in your own group, you get in¬ timidated. *l get intimidated by blacks be¬ cause I'm not black.' L.C. Powell, editor of the black newspaper at CSUF, Uhuru Ni Umeja, said he thinks the segrega¬ tion among the cultures can be at¬ tributed to the 'mating rituals' of the different groups. 'I would not sit with a group of white guys who were trying to im¬ press ladies who would not inter¬ est me...* said Powell. 'Every one* in a while you see a few blacks with some white guys, but not «ery often.' Powell, whose roommate is white, said there is definitely a difference through school, you learn about white values.' Of approximately 16,232 students at CSUF, 3.3 percent of them are black. Powell blames this on the re¬ cruitment efforts of the campus ad¬ ministration. 'Of the black males here, about 75 percent of them are athletes,' he said. 'In that department, they need blacks. In other departments they don't, so the recruiting isn't as [ blacks do not have that much "in com- and that difference keeps them apart. Take intramural sports for ex¬ ample. When blacks play basketball, There have been efforts ii areas of the campus t ,_ _, rollment of black students at CSUF. Recruiting recommendations were recently presented to President Harold Haak by members of the Black Educators Association of Fresno. A task force from members of that com¬ mittee presented Haak with such sug¬ gestions as developing more student affirmative action programs on cam¬ pus, providng more financial aid for black students and establishing recruitment goals for 1981 through 1983. Efforts are also being made by the Center for Black Affairs, ac¬ cording to Mikell. The center is lo¬ cated in the Black Studies office and is set up to recruit more black stu¬ dents to CSUF and counsel them so more will graduate. Blacks have the highest drop-out rate of all the minori¬ ties. The Educational Opportunity Pro¬ gram on campus is also increasing efforts to recruit black students, ac¬ cording to Robert Hernandez, direc¬ tor of the program. The reason is to reverse the decline of Black stu¬ dent applicants for admission through EOP. One white student said he feels blacks segregate themselves. "Look at all the separate pro¬ grams. There are organizations for blacks and whites together but they (blacks) don't use them,* he said. Mikell said the reason there are so many separate organizations is simply 'they (different races) have more things in common wfth each other.' He said also that, traditionally, some 'white organizations,' like some fraternities and sororities, have not invited blacks to join. 'If the blacks and browns would, have been included in these organiza¬ tions in the beginning, the separatism, never would have existed,'he said. The Pan African Union, an 'um¬ brella organization' for all black stu¬ dents, was formed 12 years ago. Mikell said lb purpose then was to give black students something to be¬ long to. At that time there were only about eight black students on campus. One white student said he thinks black students have *|ust as many, if not more, prejudices against white people as whites have against blacks. There are some blacks that say ail whites are the same. Some say all blacks are the same. That's like say¬ ing all people are the same. And they're not,* he said. Another white student, a senior, said he does not associate wfth many blacks because he does not feel comfortable. He said sometimes he feels he is being blamed for the past. -It's the past and the preserrt ail molded Into one. It's always been the whites blamed for being pre¬ judice dominantJy against the , blacks,* he said. *l feel uncomfort¬ able if they think I'm one of those There are also separate organiza¬ tions for Chicanos. One organization is MEChA (Movimiento EstudiantJl ChicanodeAztJan). President of MEChA, Cerardo Conzalez, said, 'We're for social change and that means change for everyone. We're not separatists.' ConzaJes said the reason there is segregation among the students Is, '(White) people just don't relate to blacks or Chicanos as well.' 'I see Mexicans doing a lot of - vandalism,' said one white female student. 'Maybe that's a bad gen¬ eralization, but I sure see a tot of it. -Blacks seem to stick to them¬ selves. They don't really bother any¬ one. Chicanos seem to go out looking to cause trouble.* Dr. Jesus Luna, director of the La Raza Studies Program, said there are many negative stereotypes of minorities like this. He said he thinks basically though, that different inter¬ ests and peer pressure are the rea- ^Students fear being labeled If they are seen with a group of whites, he said. They (Chicanos) feel the same way toward blacks.' Luna said the minority pro¬ grams at CSUF are not really treated individually. j , -On this campus, they tend to lump us all together,'he said. _ Chicanos make up 9.7 perceM <* the student population at CSUF, more than the rest of the minorities com¬ bined. Luna said by looking at the demographics, one would think more emphasis would be placed on the Chi- C*C«nzales said the Chicanos want to retain their culture. He said that in¬ stead of a 'melting "«'«■..<"_ tures, the United States should be likea'salad bowl,'where all themix- tures are together but each retain¬ ing their own culture. -It's not a melting pot. We should not all be melted Into the Anglo oil-. ^''lite^being bi-cultural...l Ill- speaking Spanish and I think we _..,.. t let If workers speak anything but English." Monica Delacruz, a Chicano, lives in a suite In the CSUF dormitories. She shares the suite with five other girls, four of them are Chicano. She said she would be happy Irving with anyone whether they were Chicano or not 'Because of their different back¬ grounds, a lot of Chicanos just want to stay in their own group,' she said. 'A lot of it is income too. They come from the same side of town so they stick together.* Chicanos, according to Luna, have them see what black people are all Mikell said some prejudices against the Black Studies program have developed out of certain attitudes toward blacks. One incident this semester involved a girl who was ad¬ vised not to take a Black Studies course by her adviser in tlie His¬ tory Department. -S^ndrit wasn't a black student of course, it was a white student," said Mikell. 'That was totally dis- Mikdl said the girl would not tell him who the adviser was. He also said there is no way of finding out 'SOME whites have certain attitudes about black^and have jbeen influenced by their parents' the perception that the white people do not have a good understanding about the Chicano culture. 'My hope Is that the new change in the Ceneral Education require¬ ments will bring about more of an un¬ derstanding,' said Luna. *l think it's a very small step though. I think we should do more.' The new Ceneral Education re¬ quirement is for present freshmen. They are required to take one dass from an Ethnic Studies or Women s Studies program. Mikell said he encourages stu¬ dents to enroll in Ethnic Studies classes, whether they are required to "'•Some whites have certain atti¬ tudes about blacks and have been in¬ fluenced by their parents all their lives,' said Mikell. 'By the time how many other students are being counseled against it. There have been other problems on campus with racial problems between students and teachers. One white Instructor Powell had for a physical education dass would 'ignore every comment I made.' Powell finally was transferred Into another dass, but was forced to take the same instructor for a dif¬ ferent class the following semester. 'When I took him for another class, he told me, 'You won't be here Powell believes the problems may have been racially related. 'It's hard to describe -what it's like when you're in a classroom andvou're the only black,* said 'out p_ the 750 full-lime faculty memberTat CSUF, 100 are rrrfnori- tJes and 143~ are women. Nineteen of the'minoriffes are women. Seven out of every 10 professors are white males. Klassen said there has been an ef¬ fort to have workshops for Instruc¬ tors in order to improve their rela¬ tionships with students of different cultures. He said the workshops have helped and let instructors ventilate any negative feelings they may have about the students or about the Black/Ethnic Studies program. The faculty members are now aware that these classes are im¬ portant, that they're solid courses, not Mickey Mouse courses,- said Klassen. In Mikell's opinion, the 'domi¬ nant society,' meaning white people, has caused the separatism. •Especially between blacks and whites,' he said. 'Every other group is doser to the whites. They have ski n color closer to the whites. * -I'm not saying we-should have segregation, but blacks are still making 60 to 70 percent of what whites earn..." Mikell's American Black Chettoes class is made up of 48 students and only 20 are black. He said they discuss different issues and try to clear up myths that white people have about blacks. He said black stu¬ dents also begin to understand white students. *A lot of people think West Fresno is a jungle, and that if they go there they are going to get attacked." The dass also explores black cul¬ ture and history. 'At the end of the semester, we'll have a soul food dinner,* he said. •We'll have mustard greens, sweet potatopie.blackeyedpeas...' " There is a need for this kind of education in the tower levels of study, accordlngto Mikell and Luna. -Geography, history-all those are about white society. You open your history book and you see very little about blacks or any other cul¬ ture,* said Mikell. The blacks came to the U.S. in 1619, 180 years before this country was founded.' Mikell said in order to dose the gap that separates the drfferent races, 'we need to know more about each other.' Cindi Hood, a Wade freshman at CSUF, said she does not associate wtth too many whites. 'People like to hang around with the same kind of people. That's the way it is. When I go out, I'm al-
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Title | 1981_11 The Daily Collegian November 1981 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1981 |
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Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
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Title | Nov 13, 1981 Pg. 8-9 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1981 |
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Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
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Full-Text-Search | Paae 8/ November 13,1961—Dally Collegian ^mxt^mx^ Breaking the racial barriers Students need to be more color blind, students and administrators say - 'MY hope is that the new change In the G.E. requirements will bring about more of an understanding' Like oil and water, the ethnic races of Americans at CSUF are hav¬ ing a hard time mixing. The general consensus oi students at CSUF said the reason blacks, Chicanos and whites segregate them¬ selves from each other is, as one white student said, "There really is a difference between us." "It's just different cultures," said John Wells, a black senior biology major. "I get together with whites to study just because I don't have any blacks in my classes. But not to In 18%, black and white people were legally separated in America, after being customarily separated for 280 years before that. They were con¬ sidered "equal/ but separate,' as a result of the Supreme Court case, Plessy vs Ferguson. Separate toilets were used, separate drinking foun¬ tains, even separate cemeteries. In court, blacks took oaths on separate Bibles. On the bus, they sat in the bade, | 'Is there a whole lot of difference now?' asked Dr. Robert Mikell, Black Studies coordinator at CSUF. The laws have changed drastically, the attitudes are changing slowly, but the story is the same. Blacks, whites and browns remain largely socially mon with white people. 'If a group of blacks get together and talk about music, we'd be talk¬ ing about Quincy Jones or some¬ one,' he said. 'When a group of whites Ulk, it's about Pink Floyd.. * For that reason, Goodwin said he prefers to be around black people. 'I'm not saying it's best,* he said. 'It's just more natural.' In the College Union or the" cafeteria, the segregation is most noticeable. The different colors are grouped together and there is little intermingling. 'It's obvious on this campus. If you go into the cafeteria you see it all the time," said Peter Klassen, they yell at each other and talk about their mommas, but they don't get into a fight,' he said. 'When whites start yelling, there's going to be a fight.* Powell said he does not think it is wrong to generalize like this. *We all stereotype,' he explained. 'That's not bad. It's what we do with that information that matters.' Education is the key that will bring the races together, said Powell. He said blacks have already learned about white people. He said white people should learn more about blacks. "School is based on white middle- class ethics. So if you make it 'WE all stereotype.That's not bad. It's what we do with that information that matters' r of skin color," 'It's all said Mikell. The three predominant races in this country tend to go their own ways. Some call it 'voluntary segre¬ gation' and it seems to be happening everywhere. Even CSUF. The reasons for the separatism seem to be deeper than Just skin color, however. The difference also seems to be cultural and historical. Some people at CSUF think the and socially, do not dick. time,' said Paul Goodwin, a I black junior chemistry major. 'It may be jokingly, but you get tired of dean of the School of Social Sciences. •Like seeks like. Blacks tend to as¬ sociate with blacks and whites do the same. It's a matter of habit.* One white female on campus said the reason she thinks there is segregation is because of the 'pre¬ judice of both groups. When you're not in your own group, you get in¬ timidated. *l get intimidated by blacks be¬ cause I'm not black.' L.C. Powell, editor of the black newspaper at CSUF, Uhuru Ni Umeja, said he thinks the segrega¬ tion among the cultures can be at¬ tributed to the 'mating rituals' of the different groups. 'I would not sit with a group of white guys who were trying to im¬ press ladies who would not inter¬ est me...* said Powell. 'Every one* in a while you see a few blacks with some white guys, but not «ery often.' Powell, whose roommate is white, said there is definitely a difference through school, you learn about white values.' Of approximately 16,232 students at CSUF, 3.3 percent of them are black. Powell blames this on the re¬ cruitment efforts of the campus ad¬ ministration. 'Of the black males here, about 75 percent of them are athletes,' he said. 'In that department, they need blacks. In other departments they don't, so the recruiting isn't as [ blacks do not have that much "in com- and that difference keeps them apart. Take intramural sports for ex¬ ample. When blacks play basketball, There have been efforts ii areas of the campus t ,_ _, rollment of black students at CSUF. Recruiting recommendations were recently presented to President Harold Haak by members of the Black Educators Association of Fresno. A task force from members of that com¬ mittee presented Haak with such sug¬ gestions as developing more student affirmative action programs on cam¬ pus, providng more financial aid for black students and establishing recruitment goals for 1981 through 1983. Efforts are also being made by the Center for Black Affairs, ac¬ cording to Mikell. The center is lo¬ cated in the Black Studies office and is set up to recruit more black stu¬ dents to CSUF and counsel them so more will graduate. Blacks have the highest drop-out rate of all the minori¬ ties. The Educational Opportunity Pro¬ gram on campus is also increasing efforts to recruit black students, ac¬ cording to Robert Hernandez, direc¬ tor of the program. The reason is to reverse the decline of Black stu¬ dent applicants for admission through EOP. One white student said he feels blacks segregate themselves. "Look at all the separate pro¬ grams. There are organizations for blacks and whites together but they (blacks) don't use them,* he said. Mikell said the reason there are so many separate organizations is simply 'they (different races) have more things in common wfth each other.' He said also that, traditionally, some 'white organizations,' like some fraternities and sororities, have not invited blacks to join. 'If the blacks and browns would, have been included in these organiza¬ tions in the beginning, the separatism, never would have existed,'he said. The Pan African Union, an 'um¬ brella organization' for all black stu¬ dents, was formed 12 years ago. Mikell said lb purpose then was to give black students something to be¬ long to. At that time there were only about eight black students on campus. One white student said he thinks black students have *|ust as many, if not more, prejudices against white people as whites have against blacks. There are some blacks that say ail whites are the same. Some say all blacks are the same. That's like say¬ ing all people are the same. And they're not,* he said. Another white student, a senior, said he does not associate wfth many blacks because he does not feel comfortable. He said sometimes he feels he is being blamed for the past. -It's the past and the preserrt ail molded Into one. It's always been the whites blamed for being pre¬ judice dominantJy against the , blacks,* he said. *l feel uncomfort¬ able if they think I'm one of those There are also separate organiza¬ tions for Chicanos. One organization is MEChA (Movimiento EstudiantJl ChicanodeAztJan). President of MEChA, Cerardo Conzalez, said, 'We're for social change and that means change for everyone. We're not separatists.' ConzaJes said the reason there is segregation among the students Is, '(White) people just don't relate to blacks or Chicanos as well.' 'I see Mexicans doing a lot of - vandalism,' said one white female student. 'Maybe that's a bad gen¬ eralization, but I sure see a tot of it. -Blacks seem to stick to them¬ selves. They don't really bother any¬ one. Chicanos seem to go out looking to cause trouble.* Dr. Jesus Luna, director of the La Raza Studies Program, said there are many negative stereotypes of minorities like this. He said he thinks basically though, that different inter¬ ests and peer pressure are the rea- ^Students fear being labeled If they are seen with a group of whites, he said. They (Chicanos) feel the same way toward blacks.' Luna said the minority pro¬ grams at CSUF are not really treated individually. j , -On this campus, they tend to lump us all together,'he said. _ Chicanos make up 9.7 perceM <* the student population at CSUF, more than the rest of the minorities com¬ bined. Luna said by looking at the demographics, one would think more emphasis would be placed on the Chi- C*C«nzales said the Chicanos want to retain their culture. He said that in¬ stead of a 'melting "«'«■..<"_ tures, the United States should be likea'salad bowl,'where all themix- tures are together but each retain¬ ing their own culture. -It's not a melting pot. We should not all be melted Into the Anglo oil-. ^''lite^being bi-cultural...l Ill- speaking Spanish and I think we _..,.. t let If workers speak anything but English." Monica Delacruz, a Chicano, lives in a suite In the CSUF dormitories. She shares the suite with five other girls, four of them are Chicano. She said she would be happy Irving with anyone whether they were Chicano or not 'Because of their different back¬ grounds, a lot of Chicanos just want to stay in their own group,' she said. 'A lot of it is income too. They come from the same side of town so they stick together.* Chicanos, according to Luna, have them see what black people are all Mikell said some prejudices against the Black Studies program have developed out of certain attitudes toward blacks. One incident this semester involved a girl who was ad¬ vised not to take a Black Studies course by her adviser in tlie His¬ tory Department. -S^ndrit wasn't a black student of course, it was a white student," said Mikell. 'That was totally dis- Mikdl said the girl would not tell him who the adviser was. He also said there is no way of finding out 'SOME whites have certain attitudes about black^and have jbeen influenced by their parents' the perception that the white people do not have a good understanding about the Chicano culture. 'My hope Is that the new change in the Ceneral Education require¬ ments will bring about more of an un¬ derstanding,' said Luna. *l think it's a very small step though. I think we should do more.' The new Ceneral Education re¬ quirement is for present freshmen. They are required to take one dass from an Ethnic Studies or Women s Studies program. Mikell said he encourages stu¬ dents to enroll in Ethnic Studies classes, whether they are required to "'•Some whites have certain atti¬ tudes about blacks and have been in¬ fluenced by their parents all their lives,' said Mikell. 'By the time how many other students are being counseled against it. There have been other problems on campus with racial problems between students and teachers. One white Instructor Powell had for a physical education dass would 'ignore every comment I made.' Powell finally was transferred Into another dass, but was forced to take the same instructor for a dif¬ ferent class the following semester. 'When I took him for another class, he told me, 'You won't be here Powell believes the problems may have been racially related. 'It's hard to describe -what it's like when you're in a classroom andvou're the only black,* said 'out p_ the 750 full-lime faculty memberTat CSUF, 100 are rrrfnori- tJes and 143~ are women. Nineteen of the'minoriffes are women. Seven out of every 10 professors are white males. Klassen said there has been an ef¬ fort to have workshops for Instruc¬ tors in order to improve their rela¬ tionships with students of different cultures. He said the workshops have helped and let instructors ventilate any negative feelings they may have about the students or about the Black/Ethnic Studies program. The faculty members are now aware that these classes are im¬ portant, that they're solid courses, not Mickey Mouse courses,- said Klassen. In Mikell's opinion, the 'domi¬ nant society,' meaning white people, has caused the separatism. •Especially between blacks and whites,' he said. 'Every other group is doser to the whites. They have ski n color closer to the whites. * -I'm not saying we-should have segregation, but blacks are still making 60 to 70 percent of what whites earn..." Mikell's American Black Chettoes class is made up of 48 students and only 20 are black. He said they discuss different issues and try to clear up myths that white people have about blacks. He said black stu¬ dents also begin to understand white students. *A lot of people think West Fresno is a jungle, and that if they go there they are going to get attacked." The dass also explores black cul¬ ture and history. 'At the end of the semester, we'll have a soul food dinner,* he said. •We'll have mustard greens, sweet potatopie.blackeyedpeas...' " There is a need for this kind of education in the tower levels of study, accordlngto Mikell and Luna. -Geography, history-all those are about white society. You open your history book and you see very little about blacks or any other cul¬ ture,* said Mikell. The blacks came to the U.S. in 1619, 180 years before this country was founded.' Mikell said in order to dose the gap that separates the drfferent races, 'we need to know more about each other.' Cindi Hood, a Wade freshman at CSUF, said she does not associate wtth too many whites. 'People like to hang around with the same kind of people. That's the way it is. When I go out, I'm al- |