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— —I——^—-^ ,—„—;——. . _ * THE DAILY COLLEGIAN Tuesday. November 4, 1M0 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR God's existence To the Editor: In resoonse to the continuing 'dia¬ logue' between Or. Jones and the responses to his letters in The Fresno Bee and subsequently i n the Collegian... As a historian. Dr. Jones knows better than I that humans have, as long as we know, been using that which is of inter¬ est to them yet which cannot be explain¬ ed within any framework based on empirical or experimental knowledge as evidence of the existance of a Cod, many gods, stunts living in trees, clouds, under rocks or wherever. Human disease, plagues, earth¬ quakes, the passage of the sun across the skv. all manner of phenomena have in the oast been explained as being the handiwork of some supernatural force. As human knowledge increased these things have become understandable and consistent with our understanding of how the universe, In fact, works and Cod no longer is invoked as explanatory. That we do not yet know what the nature of gravitation is strikes me as insufficient reason to propose that gravi¬ tation is a manifestation (and proof?) of Cod's existance and power. If someday human intellect is able to understand gravity as we now understand infectious disease or the cause of floods, will we then have to remove Cod as the proximal cause of vet another phenomenon? On the issue of evolution of organic forms, the strengths of the argument that species change through time is based on a body of knowledge derived from both observation and experimenta¬ tion The theory of evolution by the pro¬ cess of natural selection rests not on who it was who said or says this or that, but on the strength of the evidence itself. That is. it rests not on authority but on what we hope is objective evidence. That Cod or some other sort of supernatural power is the prime mover behind every¬ thing is a moot question, ultimately resolved bv faith alone. That evolution is the result of natural selection is not moot nor a ouestion of faith. The details of what we already know about natural selection cannot be presented in letters to the editor. That does not mean that these details are obscure, but rather that they are complex and do, in fact, require that a student of such matters have a good grasp of the discipline of biology. Of course it is easy to attack any scientific construct before a lay audience and make It seem that that construct is in fundamental error. Was that not the case with the church's long standing opposi¬ tion to Copernicus and Callileo, and more recently the case with the argu ^Si?!iZI^.S^t^it!^L-„ tion-.' * know *«*'othir scholars'have Ifthevtewstftotoriem^philosophers concluded otherwise about the events 2L!!!?,!Ll"tn'!!?*5Lof .2* *Uh"*J* surrounding the death of Christ. What I «^T,0OLnC^l0'rh0-*WeM,bou,the °° find '"^resting is that after 2000 nature of the universe are consistent years of this argument about what the wi^whatwenowlwowtobetroejartto figure of lesus means, and after mfs- be taken as sufficient reason to believe sionarv after this wav or that about the universe then THE Bl&GesT PROBLEM* F^ClKkj- THIS OCOMTRV of any idea about the real world of atoms and flesh rests not with philosophers, or historians, or even university professors of bioloov. but on the evidence itself. One must nonetheless ask why it is that the overwhelming majority of the thou¬ sands of oeople engaged in research in the natural sciences accept the evidence that evolution occurs and that It occurs fundamentally by the process we call natural selection? I suppose it is possible that the realities of the world are more obvious to historians than they are to those of us who are Immersed in science It is, I suppose, also possible, If one is wont to believe, that we are all dupes of trie forces of evil which always have tried to subvert us. I prefer to think that we know something different and more demonstrably true than that which our forebearers thought they knew. I have not the foggiest idea of who Adolf von Harnack was (is?). Nor do I have anv idea of the evidence he used to defend his historicity of Jesus' resurrec- vince them, today it is still a minority of the world' s people who are Christian. All well and good, I again suppose, but it seems to me that we all accept the premises of Christianity, that that Cod would have made it easier for us all to see that as self evident, as we see the sky is blue and water is wet. Parenthetically, I suppose Dr. Jones does know that amongst the ranks of evolutionists there are both theists and atheists? That for some, evolution demonstrates the power and wisdom of a Cod, for others evolution demonstrates other verities? Either way, the theory of evolution bv natural selection stands on its own merits, sophist arguments to the contrary notwithstanding. -Richard Haas Professor of Biology KKK coverage missionary, inquisition •will upon inouisitton, all manner of torture never get anywhere. The validity iod agonv inflicted upon peoples to con To the Editor: In the Daily Collegian of Oct. 20 you stated in your editorial 'Ignore the Klan?' that the Klan is a serious prob¬ lem. We In the'Human Rights Coalition agree and also agree with you that the terrorist KKK can not be made to go away by Ignoring them- It is the duty and responsibility of everyone who believes in equality and justice to oppose hate organizations such as the KKK. The problem with the editorial is Its oversimplification of news coverage of the KKK in the central valley. If the mass media did indeed expose the KKK for the racist thugs that they are that would be one thing. But this Is not the case in Fresno, and while we consider the CoMeglan's coverage as better than most, the rest of the Fresno news media trips all over itself to uncritically inter¬ view the Klan's leaders, broadcast racist speeches they give, and even print the Klan's phone numbers so interested persons can get more information. Your editorial says that it is 'the med¬ ia's job to Infom and educate* but we consider the coverage given to be free advertising. When the media does give attention to The Human Rights Coali¬ tion's anti-racist information they give us 15-20 seconds after a 5 minute adver¬ tisement for the KKK. The Human Rights Coalition has encouraged the media to downplay its coverage of the Klan for a very good rea¬ son. We do not believe it is the media's job to spread racial hatred and encour¬ age racial violence in our community. If we can assume that the media would not give a child moiestor all the coverage he wants to express his sick points of view why can' t we expect the same 'self-cen¬ sorship* when it comes to the terrorist KKK * We don't need to give thieves, murd¬ erers, rapists, or racists a forum to spread their ideas. If the news media considers the points raised by racist and terrorist organizations any more valid than that of a child moiestor then we must ask the media to examine its own racism to understand our criticism of Its coverage. Sincerely, The Human Rights Coalition No discrimination To the Editor: I 've been reading all that' s been writ¬ ten in The Dairy CeBaglea about Russ Sloan and the hostess program. The biggest objections of the program seem to be that it's discriminatory and sexist. As far as being discriminatory, wouldn't vou apply the same criteria to every scholarship that's awarded I.e. the student who gets a scholarship because of good arades. Doesn't this discrimin¬ ate against the less intelligent? What about the scholarships for ath¬ letes, doesn't that discriminate against those that are not athletically Inclined? Practically any program that, rewards one individual could be considered dis¬ criminatory against another individual. The second thought of being sexist is also nonsense. Beauty is In the eye of the See Letters page 3 tv • f THE DAJLV COLLEGIAN PaamJ Freshman leads in LaMancha' Br Pam Curie* 'Nothing is worth doing unless you go all the wav.* These are the words of Jaqueline (Jackie) Charlotte Antaram- ian, the 18-year-old radio/television major who will play the lead in the Uni¬ versity Theater's upcoming production of 'Man of LaMancha.* Amona the 'theatre-type". It is almost unspoken for a freshman, new to the school and not even majoring in theatre arts to get such an important role. Antaramian says, "Oh, I think with the proper coaches I can develop my talents and be much better." Her eves sparkle as she speaks of the theatre and her love for the stage and dramatics. In high school it was her one hobby. She participated in forensics at Hoover High School. Antaramian grows quiet and sincere as she says, "The real reason I love theatre so much is because I used to be so terribly shy—and learning to have confidence in speaking brought me away from all that." She made it to the state finals in high school with her forensics team, and later became eighth in the state for dramatic interpretation. Also at Hoover she played in 'The Man Who Came To Dinner,' and as a junior she was Cicily in "The Importance Student wants to be best Of Beina Earnest.' She also had her debut in her senior year as Madam Dubonet in Hoover's first musical in ■ several vears. The Boyfriend.* But she feels that any good actor or actress must not rest on what they have done in the past. She stresses the belief that the best must have an extra some¬ thing that sets them apart from the crowd. For her. she said, it is the fact that she 'glistens potential.' She does not just want to be 'good,' she wants to excel. - Her training has been limited and she candidtv admits that her only true drama classes until this year have been for the past two summers where she has worked She does not Just went to be 'good,' she wants to excel. with the California Shakespearean Festi- val in Vlsalia. She played Olivia in ''Twelfth Night" In 1960. "I learned so much there; it was an Invaluable lesson in the craft." Antaramian was bom in the Soviet Union and went to Wisconsin when she was three. She continued to live there for six vears, until moving to Fresno to join other relatives. •I reallv miss Wisconsin, and I will go back some day. I don't remember any of my friends, but t remember it (the state) real well. It would be fun to see some of those friends to see how they are now interesting—because I've changed SO very much.' She is not looking back though. She is excited as she says 'I'm just taking one dayatatime.* She loves her new role calling it "inspirational.* It is challenging, but fun, she said. 'The cast Is wonderful to work with and Ed (EmanuEl) doesn't just direct us, he goes that much further and actually teaches us things. It's neat.' For someone who loves theatre life so well, and slows when she speaks of act¬ ing, whv. then is she not a theatre arts major? 'It's not that I don't think it would make a stable career, but there is a per¬ sonal ethic Involved.' She wants to delve into the outlaying areas of the1 theatre and feels, then, if the talent Is there she will get the parts, regardless of her major. She offers as proof her.current role Of Aldonza in "Man of LaMancha." She said. 'Directors aren't Interested in that BA. they want to see you per¬ form.* Besides, Antaramian feels that one must sincerely want an acting career before he or she will get it, She Is not sure, just vet, if she wants it But there are plenty of people at CSUF who are for her. Her director, EmanuEl said she has what it takes to play the 'I went to prove that I can live up to that role' sometimes difficult part of an older, brash, whore. She has no regrets about the role, time-consuming though It may be. She carries 16 units, and manages to have time off to study lines at home and attend nishtly rehearsals Antaramian smiles and adds, "I just don't want anyone to think I got a lucky break, 'cause I want to prove that I can live up to that role.' Letters Continued from Page 2 beholder. Those selected as a hostess are going to be chosen because of their total personality. Poise, neatness, ability to meet oeooje, a friendly attitude, and a sparklina personality would be even more imoortant than their looks. I feel that if people were to look at the positive purposes of the program instead of atwavs trying to find fault with the programs, our campus would be a better place for all of us. —Karen Ream Fischer criticized by 'born again' To the Editor: It Is aooarent from Dr. Fischer's letter on Oct. 23 that for a 'humanist' ills not unethical to present an unfair caricature of those one disagrees with and misrep¬ resent their position. It is evident from this letter that Fischer is either blatantly dishonest or sadly ignorant about the views of those he is attempting to refute. As one of those 'evangelical reborn* FLICHT.ATTENDANTS (F-F) are: REQUIRED on 90 U.S. AIRLINESI ; Major and Commuter. Complete list- ; Ing for EMPLOYMENT CONTACT. ; ! S4.95pp Also Incl: Standard Airline ! Application Form; Application Instructions and BASIC QUALIFICA- : TfONS. A CAREER with the Airlines:! begin with PROPER CONTACT and APPLICATION! WORLDWIDE : iAVIATION, Inc Box 718 Solvang, Ca 93463 IWWIIWIIMWIMMWIWHIWMWIt he castigates, t take exception to this simplistic and false caricature he presen¬ ted in his letter. While the conservative Christian does say that perfect knowledge comes from Cod in the form of the scripture and Is accepted bv faith, It is misleading to add 'as interpreted by authority.' Many of us stand within the tradition of the refor¬ mation and assert that the Bible Is the only authority. The reformers observed the following hermeneuticaJ practices: 1) Seek the 'plain* sense of scripture. What would have been the obvious meanlna to the original readers? Treat poetry as poetry and prose as prose. They raiected the practice of allegorizing scripture. 2) Compare less dear passages with more dear ones to determine what the writer is saying. This simple practice of "it means what it says* requires no special training. Most conservative Christians approach a passaae of scripture with three ques¬ tions: 1) What Is the writer saying? 2) What does It mean? 3) So what? How does it aoofy to my life? (or does it?). In the Bible we are told to treat others the wav we want to be treated ourselves (Matt. 7:12), and to love our neighbors as ourselves (Matt. 22:39). In the story of the good Samaritan (Luke 10:30-37), Jesus not only teaches us to help anyone in need he also shows that prejudice is wrong. Sure. Christians are told to be in sub¬ mission to governing authorities (Rom. 13:1-7), but we are also told to give Ceasar (the government) that which Is Caesar's and give to Cod what Is Cod's (Matt. 22:22) and in an either/or situation we must choose to obey Cod over the eovemment (Acts 5:29). In Mtcah 6:8 we are told what Cod requires of us: 'And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love kindness and to wald humbly with your Cod?' Jesus aave us specific examples of this in Matt. 25:31-46. He states here that how we treat others is Indicative of our relationship to him. He specifically men¬ tions feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, hospitality to strangers, clothing to the naked, and visiting the skfc and Imprisoned. If Christians (or anyone) are living out these instructions how can we "do every¬ thing in our power to defent the status quo*r Jesus said the two greatest commandments are to "love God with all we are'and to'love our neighbors as we love ourselves' (Matt. 22:24-40). We are also told to love our enemies (Luke 6:27- 35). So it's not either love Cod or love man¬ kind. It's love both. I'll let you decide if this means we are to be 'good Ameri¬ cans, good patriots, and good right- wingers' or If the three are really the same. As for the comment that one who chooses to live Cod's way must 'give up sex*, the Bible condemns sex outside the committment of the marriage rela¬ tionship. Sex is good in marriage and Is to be enjoyed. I don't see how anyone can read Song of Solomon and say Cod is against the enjoyment of sex. It Just has its place. Come on, Fischer, be fair. Read the Bible vou ridicule. There are several copies in the Library (call letters Bs 185 and following.) Mark Campbell Library tour Although the building is stilt unoccupied and not entirely fin¬ ished, the staff of the library Invites*' faculty, staff and students to tour the new addition on Wednesday, Nov. 12, from 9a.m. to4p.m. Members of the staff will be sta¬ tioned on each floor to answer questions. Enter through the glass doors facing the cafeteria. SOFT CONTACT LENSES^ fcgj^. ~ c|° OPTOMETW8T8 sW'*/-! $145 TOTAL PRICE *M W. Skew Ave f*tta»*l-eadU 108 Clorle, CA 98612 __S^J» NO EXTRA CHARGE: Price Include* one pair soft ~—T ss contact lenses, eye examination, contact lens, fitting,. Jr orientation, oare kit, and 30 days follow-up care. 'OR APPOINTMENT CALL: __^s (All fittings and lens evaluations by a Doctor of ' 299-7266 CWorr^).Sam.ci^serviceoonwwtoftler*fmifW. exp1R£8: November30,1860 ' >
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Title | 1980_11 The Daily Collegian November 1980 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1980 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
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Title | Nov 4, 1980 Pg. 2-3 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1980 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
Technical Information | Scanned at 600 dpi; TIFF; Microfilm ScanPro 2000 "E-image data" |
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Full-Text-Search | — —I——^—-^ ,—„—;——. . _ * THE DAILY COLLEGIAN Tuesday. November 4, 1M0 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR God's existence To the Editor: In resoonse to the continuing 'dia¬ logue' between Or. Jones and the responses to his letters in The Fresno Bee and subsequently i n the Collegian... As a historian. Dr. Jones knows better than I that humans have, as long as we know, been using that which is of inter¬ est to them yet which cannot be explain¬ ed within any framework based on empirical or experimental knowledge as evidence of the existance of a Cod, many gods, stunts living in trees, clouds, under rocks or wherever. Human disease, plagues, earth¬ quakes, the passage of the sun across the skv. all manner of phenomena have in the oast been explained as being the handiwork of some supernatural force. As human knowledge increased these things have become understandable and consistent with our understanding of how the universe, In fact, works and Cod no longer is invoked as explanatory. That we do not yet know what the nature of gravitation is strikes me as insufficient reason to propose that gravi¬ tation is a manifestation (and proof?) of Cod's existance and power. If someday human intellect is able to understand gravity as we now understand infectious disease or the cause of floods, will we then have to remove Cod as the proximal cause of vet another phenomenon? On the issue of evolution of organic forms, the strengths of the argument that species change through time is based on a body of knowledge derived from both observation and experimenta¬ tion The theory of evolution by the pro¬ cess of natural selection rests not on who it was who said or says this or that, but on the strength of the evidence itself. That is. it rests not on authority but on what we hope is objective evidence. That Cod or some other sort of supernatural power is the prime mover behind every¬ thing is a moot question, ultimately resolved bv faith alone. That evolution is the result of natural selection is not moot nor a ouestion of faith. The details of what we already know about natural selection cannot be presented in letters to the editor. That does not mean that these details are obscure, but rather that they are complex and do, in fact, require that a student of such matters have a good grasp of the discipline of biology. Of course it is easy to attack any scientific construct before a lay audience and make It seem that that construct is in fundamental error. Was that not the case with the church's long standing opposi¬ tion to Copernicus and Callileo, and more recently the case with the argu ^Si?!iZI^.S^t^it!^L-„ tion-.' * know *«*'othir scholars'have Ifthevtewstftotoriem^philosophers concluded otherwise about the events 2L!!!?,!Ll"tn'!!?*5Lof .2* *Uh"*J* surrounding the death of Christ. What I «^T,0OLnC^l0'rh0-*WeM,bou,the °° find '"^resting is that after 2000 nature of the universe are consistent years of this argument about what the wi^whatwenowlwowtobetroejartto figure of lesus means, and after mfs- be taken as sufficient reason to believe sionarv after this wav or that about the universe then THE Bl&GesT PROBLEM* F^ClKkj- THIS OCOMTRV of any idea about the real world of atoms and flesh rests not with philosophers, or historians, or even university professors of bioloov. but on the evidence itself. One must nonetheless ask why it is that the overwhelming majority of the thou¬ sands of oeople engaged in research in the natural sciences accept the evidence that evolution occurs and that It occurs fundamentally by the process we call natural selection? I suppose it is possible that the realities of the world are more obvious to historians than they are to those of us who are Immersed in science It is, I suppose, also possible, If one is wont to believe, that we are all dupes of trie forces of evil which always have tried to subvert us. I prefer to think that we know something different and more demonstrably true than that which our forebearers thought they knew. I have not the foggiest idea of who Adolf von Harnack was (is?). Nor do I have anv idea of the evidence he used to defend his historicity of Jesus' resurrec- vince them, today it is still a minority of the world' s people who are Christian. All well and good, I again suppose, but it seems to me that we all accept the premises of Christianity, that that Cod would have made it easier for us all to see that as self evident, as we see the sky is blue and water is wet. Parenthetically, I suppose Dr. Jones does know that amongst the ranks of evolutionists there are both theists and atheists? That for some, evolution demonstrates the power and wisdom of a Cod, for others evolution demonstrates other verities? Either way, the theory of evolution bv natural selection stands on its own merits, sophist arguments to the contrary notwithstanding. -Richard Haas Professor of Biology KKK coverage missionary, inquisition •will upon inouisitton, all manner of torture never get anywhere. The validity iod agonv inflicted upon peoples to con To the Editor: In the Daily Collegian of Oct. 20 you stated in your editorial 'Ignore the Klan?' that the Klan is a serious prob¬ lem. We In the'Human Rights Coalition agree and also agree with you that the terrorist KKK can not be made to go away by Ignoring them- It is the duty and responsibility of everyone who believes in equality and justice to oppose hate organizations such as the KKK. The problem with the editorial is Its oversimplification of news coverage of the KKK in the central valley. If the mass media did indeed expose the KKK for the racist thugs that they are that would be one thing. But this Is not the case in Fresno, and while we consider the CoMeglan's coverage as better than most, the rest of the Fresno news media trips all over itself to uncritically inter¬ view the Klan's leaders, broadcast racist speeches they give, and even print the Klan's phone numbers so interested persons can get more information. Your editorial says that it is 'the med¬ ia's job to Infom and educate* but we consider the coverage given to be free advertising. When the media does give attention to The Human Rights Coali¬ tion's anti-racist information they give us 15-20 seconds after a 5 minute adver¬ tisement for the KKK. The Human Rights Coalition has encouraged the media to downplay its coverage of the Klan for a very good rea¬ son. We do not believe it is the media's job to spread racial hatred and encour¬ age racial violence in our community. If we can assume that the media would not give a child moiestor all the coverage he wants to express his sick points of view why can' t we expect the same 'self-cen¬ sorship* when it comes to the terrorist KKK * We don't need to give thieves, murd¬ erers, rapists, or racists a forum to spread their ideas. If the news media considers the points raised by racist and terrorist organizations any more valid than that of a child moiestor then we must ask the media to examine its own racism to understand our criticism of Its coverage. Sincerely, The Human Rights Coalition No discrimination To the Editor: I 've been reading all that' s been writ¬ ten in The Dairy CeBaglea about Russ Sloan and the hostess program. The biggest objections of the program seem to be that it's discriminatory and sexist. As far as being discriminatory, wouldn't vou apply the same criteria to every scholarship that's awarded I.e. the student who gets a scholarship because of good arades. Doesn't this discrimin¬ ate against the less intelligent? What about the scholarships for ath¬ letes, doesn't that discriminate against those that are not athletically Inclined? Practically any program that, rewards one individual could be considered dis¬ criminatory against another individual. The second thought of being sexist is also nonsense. Beauty is In the eye of the See Letters page 3 tv • f THE DAJLV COLLEGIAN PaamJ Freshman leads in LaMancha' Br Pam Curie* 'Nothing is worth doing unless you go all the wav.* These are the words of Jaqueline (Jackie) Charlotte Antaram- ian, the 18-year-old radio/television major who will play the lead in the Uni¬ versity Theater's upcoming production of 'Man of LaMancha.* Amona the 'theatre-type". It is almost unspoken for a freshman, new to the school and not even majoring in theatre arts to get such an important role. Antaramian says, "Oh, I think with the proper coaches I can develop my talents and be much better." Her eves sparkle as she speaks of the theatre and her love for the stage and dramatics. In high school it was her one hobby. She participated in forensics at Hoover High School. Antaramian grows quiet and sincere as she says, "The real reason I love theatre so much is because I used to be so terribly shy—and learning to have confidence in speaking brought me away from all that." She made it to the state finals in high school with her forensics team, and later became eighth in the state for dramatic interpretation. Also at Hoover she played in 'The Man Who Came To Dinner,' and as a junior she was Cicily in "The Importance Student wants to be best Of Beina Earnest.' She also had her debut in her senior year as Madam Dubonet in Hoover's first musical in ■ several vears. The Boyfriend.* But she feels that any good actor or actress must not rest on what they have done in the past. She stresses the belief that the best must have an extra some¬ thing that sets them apart from the crowd. For her. she said, it is the fact that she 'glistens potential.' She does not just want to be 'good,' she wants to excel. - Her training has been limited and she candidtv admits that her only true drama classes until this year have been for the past two summers where she has worked She does not Just went to be 'good,' she wants to excel. with the California Shakespearean Festi- val in Vlsalia. She played Olivia in ''Twelfth Night" In 1960. "I learned so much there; it was an Invaluable lesson in the craft." Antaramian was bom in the Soviet Union and went to Wisconsin when she was three. She continued to live there for six vears, until moving to Fresno to join other relatives. •I reallv miss Wisconsin, and I will go back some day. I don't remember any of my friends, but t remember it (the state) real well. It would be fun to see some of those friends to see how they are now interesting—because I've changed SO very much.' She is not looking back though. She is excited as she says 'I'm just taking one dayatatime.* She loves her new role calling it "inspirational.* It is challenging, but fun, she said. 'The cast Is wonderful to work with and Ed (EmanuEl) doesn't just direct us, he goes that much further and actually teaches us things. It's neat.' For someone who loves theatre life so well, and slows when she speaks of act¬ ing, whv. then is she not a theatre arts major? 'It's not that I don't think it would make a stable career, but there is a per¬ sonal ethic Involved.' She wants to delve into the outlaying areas of the1 theatre and feels, then, if the talent Is there she will get the parts, regardless of her major. She offers as proof her.current role Of Aldonza in "Man of LaMancha." She said. 'Directors aren't Interested in that BA. they want to see you per¬ form.* Besides, Antaramian feels that one must sincerely want an acting career before he or she will get it, She Is not sure, just vet, if she wants it But there are plenty of people at CSUF who are for her. Her director, EmanuEl said she has what it takes to play the 'I went to prove that I can live up to that role' sometimes difficult part of an older, brash, whore. She has no regrets about the role, time-consuming though It may be. She carries 16 units, and manages to have time off to study lines at home and attend nishtly rehearsals Antaramian smiles and adds, "I just don't want anyone to think I got a lucky break, 'cause I want to prove that I can live up to that role.' Letters Continued from Page 2 beholder. Those selected as a hostess are going to be chosen because of their total personality. Poise, neatness, ability to meet oeooje, a friendly attitude, and a sparklina personality would be even more imoortant than their looks. I feel that if people were to look at the positive purposes of the program instead of atwavs trying to find fault with the programs, our campus would be a better place for all of us. —Karen Ream Fischer criticized by 'born again' To the Editor: It Is aooarent from Dr. Fischer's letter on Oct. 23 that for a 'humanist' ills not unethical to present an unfair caricature of those one disagrees with and misrep¬ resent their position. It is evident from this letter that Fischer is either blatantly dishonest or sadly ignorant about the views of those he is attempting to refute. As one of those 'evangelical reborn* FLICHT.ATTENDANTS (F-F) are: REQUIRED on 90 U.S. AIRLINESI ; Major and Commuter. Complete list- ; Ing for EMPLOYMENT CONTACT. ; ! S4.95pp Also Incl: Standard Airline ! Application Form; Application Instructions and BASIC QUALIFICA- : TfONS. A CAREER with the Airlines:! begin with PROPER CONTACT and APPLICATION! WORLDWIDE : iAVIATION, Inc Box 718 Solvang, Ca 93463 IWWIIWIIMWIMMWIWHIWMWIt he castigates, t take exception to this simplistic and false caricature he presen¬ ted in his letter. While the conservative Christian does say that perfect knowledge comes from Cod in the form of the scripture and Is accepted bv faith, It is misleading to add 'as interpreted by authority.' Many of us stand within the tradition of the refor¬ mation and assert that the Bible Is the only authority. The reformers observed the following hermeneuticaJ practices: 1) Seek the 'plain* sense of scripture. What would have been the obvious meanlna to the original readers? Treat poetry as poetry and prose as prose. They raiected the practice of allegorizing scripture. 2) Compare less dear passages with more dear ones to determine what the writer is saying. This simple practice of "it means what it says* requires no special training. Most conservative Christians approach a passaae of scripture with three ques¬ tions: 1) What Is the writer saying? 2) What does It mean? 3) So what? How does it aoofy to my life? (or does it?). In the Bible we are told to treat others the wav we want to be treated ourselves (Matt. 7:12), and to love our neighbors as ourselves (Matt. 22:39). In the story of the good Samaritan (Luke 10:30-37), Jesus not only teaches us to help anyone in need he also shows that prejudice is wrong. Sure. Christians are told to be in sub¬ mission to governing authorities (Rom. 13:1-7), but we are also told to give Ceasar (the government) that which Is Caesar's and give to Cod what Is Cod's (Matt. 22:22) and in an either/or situation we must choose to obey Cod over the eovemment (Acts 5:29). In Mtcah 6:8 we are told what Cod requires of us: 'And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love kindness and to wald humbly with your Cod?' Jesus aave us specific examples of this in Matt. 25:31-46. He states here that how we treat others is Indicative of our relationship to him. He specifically men¬ tions feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, hospitality to strangers, clothing to the naked, and visiting the skfc and Imprisoned. If Christians (or anyone) are living out these instructions how can we "do every¬ thing in our power to defent the status quo*r Jesus said the two greatest commandments are to "love God with all we are'and to'love our neighbors as we love ourselves' (Matt. 22:24-40). We are also told to love our enemies (Luke 6:27- 35). So it's not either love Cod or love man¬ kind. It's love both. I'll let you decide if this means we are to be 'good Ameri¬ cans, good patriots, and good right- wingers' or If the three are really the same. As for the comment that one who chooses to live Cod's way must 'give up sex*, the Bible condemns sex outside the committment of the marriage rela¬ tionship. Sex is good in marriage and Is to be enjoyed. I don't see how anyone can read Song of Solomon and say Cod is against the enjoyment of sex. It Just has its place. Come on, Fischer, be fair. Read the Bible vou ridicule. There are several copies in the Library (call letters Bs 185 and following.) Mark Campbell Library tour Although the building is stilt unoccupied and not entirely fin¬ ished, the staff of the library Invites*' faculty, staff and students to tour the new addition on Wednesday, Nov. 12, from 9a.m. to4p.m. Members of the staff will be sta¬ tioned on each floor to answer questions. Enter through the glass doors facing the cafeteria. SOFT CONTACT LENSES^ fcgj^. ~ c|° OPTOMETW8T8 sW'*/-! $145 TOTAL PRICE *M W. Skew Ave f*tta»*l-eadU 108 Clorle, CA 98612 __S^J» NO EXTRA CHARGE: Price Include* one pair soft ~—T ss contact lenses, eye examination, contact lens, fitting,. Jr orientation, oare kit, and 30 days follow-up care. 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