1980_05 The Daily Collegian May 1980

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hard-line stance of National Security
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Woodside'a atraigMforward account
waa in sharp contrast to the first letter
received by tto CoDeg_n office and
printed on March 3. It kicked off a dis-
cuaaion which waa followed closely
by many faculty members and students.
Student Eric Carlson wrote that
Cypher's panel speech was "rife with
inatxiiraciee" and challenged tto pro¬
fessor's use of the Yalta agreement or
assumptions aa a g—deline for Soviet
POtoy.
Csrlaon laced hia words with undis¬
guised vituperation as well as Inferences
against Cypher's character.
'Cypher's demagogue— and whining
style of delivery,' to wrote, 'ia apprc-
priate of the Jane Fonda school of Inter¬
national Politics. Cyptor mdicated a
lack of reparation thiit woold entbarraas
most professors."   ■
Jones later wrote I list some of Carl-
son's remarks about Cypher were
"charitable" at best.
Both Carlson and Jones complained
that Cypher went off the subject with his
speech and that to backed it op with
questionable materials which suggested
a sympathy with the Marxist philosophy.
'He discussed what to is worried
about and not what tto Afghanis are
worried about,* Jones said, sitting back
in his office chair last week. <
But Cyptor retorted that any such
complaints are "red Herrings."
Cyptor said that by addressing U.S.
foreign policy thia would make for a
well-rounded panel and present a big¬
ger, more comprehensive picture of tto
situation.
In response to Carlson, Cypher writer
(Collegian 3/11/80), 'I will set aside his
libelous ad homimem attack on my pub¬
lic speaking style and deal with substan¬
tive issues."
In a lengthy .explanation, Cypher
sticks to what to believes to to tto tacts
of.Soviet policy-a stance which only
cast more fuel into tto increasingly-
heated debate.
On March 20, History Professor
Robert DinIdin says Cyptor ia, in part,
ijuiltyof'aduitorticenoffacts.'
And on March 24 Jones joined in the
fray when to wrote of Cyptor'* 'un¬
seen—Tgjy iWengue' on the panel.
1 known fair amount about tto his¬
tory of Soviet foreign potIcy, but I am not
sure what he is talking about. I suspect
he doesn't either, 'Jones wrote.
And on March 26: 'Once again,
Cyptor, like so many before him, has
shown that it is precticaUy impossible to
tobotha-_r_atandb-__4ta!__.* '
'Both doctrines - (Marxism and
Nsxiam) are rooted in illogical mumbo-
jumbo and find their drive in their hat-
reds. Yet some of our leftists on campujt
apparently like this stuff. Tto only
quest—a is why do these people sub¬
mit to thia totalitarian disease volun¬
tary," Jonee aaid.  ..
Cyptor believes that such remarks
referring to 'diseases,' 'demagoguery, •
and 'whining* are examples of the scare
tactics used against him and designed to
"label myposition aa be—gone that typi-
fies an urespc——Me critique of p—icy.
Such "nan*>-caUing,* says Cypher, is
notworthy of a reeponae.    .
'Perse—ally, forme to say "oh no, I'm
humane' is to fall in to a level of trading
one name for another, "Cypher said.
'What do *V-i >-—Jtee—vrf. i——-7'
It is difficult for me to rm-grata—d
what would motivate ah —dividual to
resort to name raiting, except in tto heat
of anger,* he said.    .
'Historiographical warfare," Cypher
wrote (Collegian 4/11/80), 'is not sub¬
stitute for scholarship;...name railing
and sarcasm must'never be confused
with careful criticism.'
Jones said that any remarks to made
about his colleague were in fair play.
He added, with a smile, that such corn-
men—make for good reading.
Cypher obviously waan't humored.
Jones does compliment Cypher once
for a letter (Collegian A/14/80) which'
contained a 'plausible analysis" on the
Afghanistan situation. 'Good work,
Jim,'to writes.
Jones himself waa tto target of crit¬
icism from self-educated "expert" on
Soviet affaira-WiUiam Mandel of Berk¬
eley.
Mandel called Jones a "bar* because
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del's rektaonship with his son. Tto bay
are* resident abo addressed Soviet
foreign policy. In a parting shot, Mandel
called Jones ' a pretty mean little pip.
squeak.*
Jones to Mandel: 'He's off tto scale.
He"s extremely cloaemfaded. I don't
think there's any debate with a manlike
that."
Aa for Cypher, Jones said Friday that
his critic—rns of the fjcononilea profess—,
were meant "to mdicate to tto broader
student what I consider to be the weak¬
nesses of tto Marxist mind and argu¬
ment."
But Cypher disdains any such labels
and says to is, in fact, a bad critic of tto
Soviets because to _D 't 'ctoritable.'
Cypher seid none Of hia critics ever
mia—aged to meet his argumaula "point-
blank- and that his stance haa been
valid*ted by recent events in Iran and in
the stepdown of Secretary of State Cyrus
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. last week Cypher i-choed the words
of a flyer which waa stapled near tto
doorof hia office. "If you complain about
this system, you're (-belled) a Marxist
or at beet, some kind of unAmerican
radical," it reads.
Meanwhile, Jones continues to ques¬
tion Cypher 'suae of certain facta. These
materials represent "lying on a big
•—ale," to aaid. Tto historian maintahiB
that his colleague represents a faction in.
this country which "constantly usee
harsher standards to judge tto United
States.'
Jones said that in hia ten years at
CSUF the discussion was the most infor¬
mative and significant he's seen.
But to Cyptor tto whole incident
apparently meant much more than that.
As to wrote in his final letter dated
April 11, 'We can hardly expect our stu¬
dents to understand or believe in the im¬
portance of civility and respect for the
opinions of others if their teachers and
fa——00—ill leaders ignore it."
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