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apartheid, especially in housing. There's
no mixture of people there. You can't live
where you want to."
Harris said he visited Namibia as part
of his tour. Thc Southwest African nation
is a protectorate of South Africa, but
Karris said the conditions there are far
better than those in South Africa.
"There's progress there." he said. "They
have a multi-racial government and mixed
housing and employment. They're eight to
10 years ahead of'South Africa."
Harris said while he was in South
Africa he made several contacts in addition
to those he established through the govern¬
ment, and these new contacts helped him
form his opinions about the situation
there. m
"I developed new contacts beyond those
that were offered by the Department of
Foreign Affairs," he said. "That gave mc a
wider area in order to make judgments on
the situation in South Africa."
Harris said he spoke to Dr. N. Mptlana,
president of the Soweto Civil Association
and a leader iti the United Democratic
Front. He also safd he spoke to the only
chairman of the Johannesburg Defense
Action Committee that is not hi prison,
and to George Bi/os. a leading South
African civil rights attorney currently
defending 22 people in the ongoing Treas¬
on Trials.
Harris said he took the last *chcduied
flight of South African Airways before
service was suspended due to economic
sanctions. He said he thinks the sanctions
against South Africa will not influence the
white South African government to abolish
its system of apartheid, which he, said is
firmly rooted in the country's legal texts.
"lam opposed to economic sanctions as
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a way to spur change in South Africa," he
said. "Historically, sanctions don't work."
To illustrate his point. Harris referred
to thc 1980 grain embargo^the Carter
Administration imposed against the Soviet
Union, in protest of the Soviet's invasion
of Afghanistan.
"Six years later there's no change," he
said. "The Soviets are still in Afghanistan.
They justfound other sources of grain.
The American farmers suffered the most."
Harris said the best way to invoke
change in South Africa is to be preyat in
South Africa. He said U.S. companies
leaving South Africa in response lo pressure
from anti-apartheid groups in the United
States will not force the South African
government to abolish apartheid, but will
allow others to enter the country to replace
dwindling American investments.
Harris said there have been no major
U.S. investments in South Africa in thc
past eight years, and that currently there
are only about $1.3 billion of U!S. investments
in the country.
"I taked to Lionel Grewan. manager of
Citibank in South Africa, and Gaby
Magomolo, assistant to the chairman of
Barclay's National Bank," he said. "They
reinforced that we need to have more
investment and presence in South Africa.
"It's a question of what kind of South
Africa do we want to see?" he said. "Do
yots-want a one-party socialist country!
similar \o the Soviet model, like the ones
in Mozambique and Angola, or do you
want/a free-enterprise system like they
have now?"
/Harris said each of the 110 people he
met on'his three-week visit was very
expressive about the situation there.
"I-was heartened by the dedication of
the business community and the educational
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community about their desire to remove
every vestige of apartheid as soon as
possible." he said. Leaders in the business
community called a part heid "an economic
drag on South Africa," he said.
Harris said the white government of
South Africa has already committed itself
to abolishing thc system of apartheid, but
has set no timetable for the completion of
the task.
"The'South African government is not*
going to fold up and go away," he said.
"The government in power has announced
it is dismantling apartheid. The question
is how fast they'll do it.
. "The country is rich enough to support
everyone in" a First World style, if they
want to."
Harris said he thinks the government
will eventually keep its promise and abolish
apartheid, but the road will be difficult.
"I oppose violence," he said. T think
people can negotiate and solve their prob¬
lems."
Harris said this type of solution process
has been takirig place in the Natal Province
for a year. He said members of the four
racial groups have been participating in
the Natal-KwaZulu lndaba (meeting) to *
try to resolve'the difficulties in that
province.
Natal is one of four South African
provinces and has a high concentration of
the Zulu Tribe.
"It's going to change." he said. "It's a
question of how fast it will change. They •
need to focus on political rights and power
sharing. You can look at it as whites and
blacks, but you have 11 tribes. What you
have is a country of ethnic minorities, and
the rights of all those minorities have to be
protected."
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