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mm ■Friday, Nov. 7.1986■ Purpose lost in rhetorical fluffery The role of the Media Council at CSU F is not clearly defined, and the group is inherently ineffective without a clear problem brought before it such as the Erik Pappa incident in Spring 1986. However, some will say the council is unnecessary no matter the climate of crisis. There has been no such cut-and- dried crisis this semester, and the council has functioned merely as a gripe session every two weeks, with the majority of gripes coming from one very vocal Asso¬ ciated Students senator. \ Given, the Media Council is an. advisory board created to examine the operation of A.S.-funded campus pub¬ lications. But it has lately become an almost laughable operation dominated by the overly vocal participation of Arts and Humanities Senator Paula Perrin. We do not advocate the silencing of any voice on the council. Rather, we feel more input by other council members, and a less vocal Perrin, would create a more effective council operation. Witness recent Media Council meetings: Following reports on the status of the minority editions, Perrin customarily stresses prompt revision and adherence to policies and procedures. She also seems quite eager to champion such supposedly urgent alterations. But we do not fed engaging in heated discussion of rules and regulations with an overly vocal opportunist contributes to the current running of a newspaper f^ I Reader Response to Daily Collegian articles and opinion are welcome. Send letters no longer than 250 words in length to Daily Collegian. Keats Campus Bldg.. CSUF, Fresno. CA 93^40. Letters must be signed and include the writer's name, address and telephone number. Hang em high Dear Daily Collegian, After reading the article "Senator defends big posters" that appeared in the Nov. 6 Collegian, I was shocked to see such a minor detail made into ;m issue. Just because a poster is a couple inches too large is no reason to discipline a senator. This policy retards some fundamental aspects of representative democracy, ridicules our own AS government, and creates quite a para-., doxjn CSUF functions. As Senator-at-Large Scott Vick said. "The students have a right to know | who their student representatives are and when they meet." One of the principles of democracy taught in any Poly Sci class is access. A politician can't represent you if you don't have access to him. In order to do this you must know when they meet, where, and who they are in order for them to work for you. Does our ovyn school forget the mass bureaucracy nationwide that runs our government? It takes form from opinion leaders, to the assembly, " to state senators, etc. etc. All of them are accessible and no 14x22-poster obli¬ gation is going to ignore that. Vick is more than justified in his cause. How many students can you name that serve on our AS government?, I've seen the poster questioned and I still can't name them all. Maybe we need more. The AS government has to be accessible; it is done best by inform¬ ing the students. If the best medium is an oversized poster...then so be it. Reprimanding Vick will demoralize our own AS government. President Bob Whalen himself gave Vick the OK. If Vick is reprimanded, not only do you reprimand access, you reprimand Whalen, the students, and a serious attempt to inform them just because of a slightly larger poster. This effffrt by Vick was one of the best ones I Ve seen in three years. Many students have been here longer, but I\J doubt that any can say they'd quarrel with a couple of inches. It's sad that a poster about the members of government is criticized for being "big." Someone can post several hundred posters around the campus promoting the Olympic lavepi or the absurd, like a 90% income tax increase. It is justified if it is on/ctter- size paper. If Vick were to take a thousand of his posters, let us say under 14x22. then it would post them all on the side of the CU? I believe that there should be restric¬ tions on campaign air time, expend¬ itures and contributions, but a couple inches of paper is a weak item to enforce. Finally, the Starship poster measures, roughly, 16x23 and yet they were all over campus. The concert ended up to be a flop. Maybe thc posters would have been more effective if .they were bigger. There have been more than this that were issued outside this 14x22 .barrier. No effort is madeto justify that poster, yet when the senator tries to enhance thc presence of the AS govern¬ ment, they talk of discipline. It seems the oolicv itself needs to be disciplined. More needs to be done to correct student apathy. One way to do it is by publicizing the government, this way the students know who they are. Not all students will look. Why don't we aid this by making our student government more cohesive with the students; by letting them pass this information on? Let's get rid of a silly rule that says a poster is too big. If the poster only takes up two more inches on the bulletin board and it isni't painted on the book- store.'who could it hurt? Jeff D. Pribble Wake-up call sent Editor. I wish to extend my admiration to Steve Bruhn on his perception of the problems in El Salvador. It would seem after many hours of deep study on the ^country and a two-week tour, Mssr. Bruhn has accomplished a great feat of intellectual insight. I must side with j Mssr. Bruhn on this babble we hear from Senior Ruelas. Surely nobody of Hispanic descent who speaks fluent Spanish, and lived in the country in question for four years could POSS¬ IBLY have the faintest notion of what's going on. I do have one question of representing students first now. and se¬ condly next year. Certainly, thinking ahead to policy revisions for tomorrow is nece¬ ssary, but they do not concern the daily running of papers now, and hashing ove.r changes and ramifications should not concern the day to day running of news. She suggested st the Wednesday meeting that the council assist in recruitment of staff members for minority editions La Voz de Aztlan and 1'huru Na I moja, and was met with a council response that the group could advise editors on how to function more effectively, but active par¬ ticipation in press operations was not the council's role. Although Perrin has said she means to 'step on no one's toes," such tirades do little to foster goodwill within the council, much less create productive relationships with editors. We think the Media Council is a very necessary watchdog organization over A.S. publications, a constructive group to draft recommended changes in existing policies, and a forum for solving problems encoun¬ tered in producing the papers. But Perrin s overbearing stance creates an unbalance, defeating whatever effec¬ tiveness the council mav demonstrate. We urge prompt correction of this urgent problem, before more harm than good is done. th. "D^Uj Collegia* Mssr. Bruhn though. If he can accom¬ plish such a feat of understanding in two weeks, why does it take him ten years to graduate from our fine institution of higher learning? When will he leave this hallowed land of academia and let us finally struggle out of the 1960s and make that great leap' into the 1980s? Henry Cole Stage 111 Sports blasted Dear Editor,. Regarding an article written by Jon Matsune on Nov. 5, 1986 "Watch the ball, not the bods," we have some helpful hints. First of all, wc as contributing writers and photographers for your paper usually look at other people's work to see what they're doing. We're the first to admit there are some good reporters on your staff,'Jon. especially, is one of your better ones. But his parody of two sexists watch¬ ing a volleyball game thc other day tops the what-not-to-do-in-journalism list. Good idea. Wrong approach. Our only question is why? Why print something that did no good for the, reader or the writer? I'm sure hell get a pat on the back- from somebody .— probably a life-time subscriber to MAD magazine. Not only was it stupid, but tasteless for any publication, school or profes¬ sional. Is he writing for his buddies in the dormitory, or doe^ he think he actually has a flair for humor? For a while there, we thought he did. Until this. And please tell us why the need to use the words "hell" and "damn" in your writing? Do you think it appeals to the college audience more, or arc you just trying to capture the essence of the person you're writing about? We don't know, and frankly, unless you're quoting somebody or you've been around in the business for a while, the use of these words in your writing make you look like an insecure student journ¬ alist who's afraid to talk to anybody in person. All right, enough of the badgering. We understand you only have a day to put things out. Mike Butwell and tfc rest are just as responsible as Matsune. But when we go to conferences and functions where we meet other student journalists from different school papers. See SPORTS, page 3 Personals ToTJF, Roses are red. Violets are blue. Just wanted to wish -HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!"(Pretty original, huh?) Happy 22nd! JMJ wonderful day in the zoo, and n< love you. :r forget 111 always Bit J.srtid days. If I could pack you in my suitcase and sneak you on my trip. I would. Don't worry — 111 come back in one piece safe and sound. Thanks for being there when I needed you and for being my friend. Ill keep on hanging in there. PS. Dont Lose The Edge. To My Silly Monkey. Paul, The next time you sun to feel btue. think of our I'm going to miss you very much these next few P.S. Turtle kisses and cat licks. Stephanie, Thank you for last weekend. I had a marvelous time. I love being with you. I can hardly wait for Thanksgiving. Smile. John Brother, of D.I .. Thanks a million for your concern. I should have known you really cared for a bummed knee jock. Sorry for not informing you guys about my where¬ abouts. I needed a lot of rest and relaxation Thanks again for the award you gave me this past monday (11-3-86). Good luck in the bed push. I want to sit next to Hillary for the bed push. PRETTY PLEASE!!! Caeolnrf Din.. Your a very special person in my life. May God bless you. I thank God for giving me c BStST like you. I love you. Diana Trejo See Personals, page 5
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Title | 1986_11 The Daily Collegian November 1986 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1986 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
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Title | November 7, 1986, Page 2 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1986 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
Technical Information | Scanned at 600 dpi; TIFF; Microfilm ScanPro 2000 "E-image data" |
Language | eng |
Full-Text-Search | mm ■Friday, Nov. 7.1986■ Purpose lost in rhetorical fluffery The role of the Media Council at CSU F is not clearly defined, and the group is inherently ineffective without a clear problem brought before it such as the Erik Pappa incident in Spring 1986. However, some will say the council is unnecessary no matter the climate of crisis. There has been no such cut-and- dried crisis this semester, and the council has functioned merely as a gripe session every two weeks, with the majority of gripes coming from one very vocal Asso¬ ciated Students senator. \ Given, the Media Council is an. advisory board created to examine the operation of A.S.-funded campus pub¬ lications. But it has lately become an almost laughable operation dominated by the overly vocal participation of Arts and Humanities Senator Paula Perrin. We do not advocate the silencing of any voice on the council. Rather, we feel more input by other council members, and a less vocal Perrin, would create a more effective council operation. Witness recent Media Council meetings: Following reports on the status of the minority editions, Perrin customarily stresses prompt revision and adherence to policies and procedures. She also seems quite eager to champion such supposedly urgent alterations. But we do not fed engaging in heated discussion of rules and regulations with an overly vocal opportunist contributes to the current running of a newspaper f^ I Reader Response to Daily Collegian articles and opinion are welcome. Send letters no longer than 250 words in length to Daily Collegian. Keats Campus Bldg.. CSUF, Fresno. CA 93^40. Letters must be signed and include the writer's name, address and telephone number. Hang em high Dear Daily Collegian, After reading the article "Senator defends big posters" that appeared in the Nov. 6 Collegian, I was shocked to see such a minor detail made into ;m issue. Just because a poster is a couple inches too large is no reason to discipline a senator. This policy retards some fundamental aspects of representative democracy, ridicules our own AS government, and creates quite a para-., doxjn CSUF functions. As Senator-at-Large Scott Vick said. "The students have a right to know | who their student representatives are and when they meet." One of the principles of democracy taught in any Poly Sci class is access. A politician can't represent you if you don't have access to him. In order to do this you must know when they meet, where, and who they are in order for them to work for you. Does our ovyn school forget the mass bureaucracy nationwide that runs our government? It takes form from opinion leaders, to the assembly, " to state senators, etc. etc. All of them are accessible and no 14x22-poster obli¬ gation is going to ignore that. Vick is more than justified in his cause. How many students can you name that serve on our AS government?, I've seen the poster questioned and I still can't name them all. Maybe we need more. The AS government has to be accessible; it is done best by inform¬ ing the students. If the best medium is an oversized poster...then so be it. Reprimanding Vick will demoralize our own AS government. President Bob Whalen himself gave Vick the OK. If Vick is reprimanded, not only do you reprimand access, you reprimand Whalen, the students, and a serious attempt to inform them just because of a slightly larger poster. This effffrt by Vick was one of the best ones I Ve seen in three years. Many students have been here longer, but I\J doubt that any can say they'd quarrel with a couple of inches. It's sad that a poster about the members of government is criticized for being "big." Someone can post several hundred posters around the campus promoting the Olympic lavepi or the absurd, like a 90% income tax increase. It is justified if it is on/ctter- size paper. If Vick were to take a thousand of his posters, let us say under 14x22. then it would post them all on the side of the CU? I believe that there should be restric¬ tions on campaign air time, expend¬ itures and contributions, but a couple inches of paper is a weak item to enforce. Finally, the Starship poster measures, roughly, 16x23 and yet they were all over campus. The concert ended up to be a flop. Maybe thc posters would have been more effective if .they were bigger. There have been more than this that were issued outside this 14x22 .barrier. No effort is madeto justify that poster, yet when the senator tries to enhance thc presence of the AS govern¬ ment, they talk of discipline. It seems the oolicv itself needs to be disciplined. More needs to be done to correct student apathy. One way to do it is by publicizing the government, this way the students know who they are. Not all students will look. Why don't we aid this by making our student government more cohesive with the students; by letting them pass this information on? Let's get rid of a silly rule that says a poster is too big. If the poster only takes up two more inches on the bulletin board and it isni't painted on the book- store.'who could it hurt? Jeff D. Pribble Wake-up call sent Editor. I wish to extend my admiration to Steve Bruhn on his perception of the problems in El Salvador. It would seem after many hours of deep study on the ^country and a two-week tour, Mssr. Bruhn has accomplished a great feat of intellectual insight. I must side with j Mssr. Bruhn on this babble we hear from Senior Ruelas. Surely nobody of Hispanic descent who speaks fluent Spanish, and lived in the country in question for four years could POSS¬ IBLY have the faintest notion of what's going on. I do have one question of representing students first now. and se¬ condly next year. Certainly, thinking ahead to policy revisions for tomorrow is nece¬ ssary, but they do not concern the daily running of papers now, and hashing ove.r changes and ramifications should not concern the day to day running of news. She suggested st the Wednesday meeting that the council assist in recruitment of staff members for minority editions La Voz de Aztlan and 1'huru Na I moja, and was met with a council response that the group could advise editors on how to function more effectively, but active par¬ ticipation in press operations was not the council's role. Although Perrin has said she means to 'step on no one's toes," such tirades do little to foster goodwill within the council, much less create productive relationships with editors. We think the Media Council is a very necessary watchdog organization over A.S. publications, a constructive group to draft recommended changes in existing policies, and a forum for solving problems encoun¬ tered in producing the papers. But Perrin s overbearing stance creates an unbalance, defeating whatever effec¬ tiveness the council mav demonstrate. We urge prompt correction of this urgent problem, before more harm than good is done. th. "D^Uj Collegia* Mssr. Bruhn though. If he can accom¬ plish such a feat of understanding in two weeks, why does it take him ten years to graduate from our fine institution of higher learning? When will he leave this hallowed land of academia and let us finally struggle out of the 1960s and make that great leap' into the 1980s? Henry Cole Stage 111 Sports blasted Dear Editor,. Regarding an article written by Jon Matsune on Nov. 5, 1986 "Watch the ball, not the bods," we have some helpful hints. First of all, wc as contributing writers and photographers for your paper usually look at other people's work to see what they're doing. We're the first to admit there are some good reporters on your staff,'Jon. especially, is one of your better ones. But his parody of two sexists watch¬ ing a volleyball game thc other day tops the what-not-to-do-in-journalism list. Good idea. Wrong approach. Our only question is why? Why print something that did no good for the, reader or the writer? I'm sure hell get a pat on the back- from somebody .— probably a life-time subscriber to MAD magazine. Not only was it stupid, but tasteless for any publication, school or profes¬ sional. Is he writing for his buddies in the dormitory, or doe^ he think he actually has a flair for humor? For a while there, we thought he did. Until this. And please tell us why the need to use the words "hell" and "damn" in your writing? Do you think it appeals to the college audience more, or arc you just trying to capture the essence of the person you're writing about? We don't know, and frankly, unless you're quoting somebody or you've been around in the business for a while, the use of these words in your writing make you look like an insecure student journ¬ alist who's afraid to talk to anybody in person. All right, enough of the badgering. We understand you only have a day to put things out. Mike Butwell and tfc rest are just as responsible as Matsune. But when we go to conferences and functions where we meet other student journalists from different school papers. See SPORTS, page 3 Personals ToTJF, Roses are red. Violets are blue. Just wanted to wish -HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!"(Pretty original, huh?) Happy 22nd! JMJ wonderful day in the zoo, and n< love you. :r forget 111 always Bit J.srtid days. If I could pack you in my suitcase and sneak you on my trip. I would. Don't worry — 111 come back in one piece safe and sound. Thanks for being there when I needed you and for being my friend. Ill keep on hanging in there. PS. Dont Lose The Edge. To My Silly Monkey. Paul, The next time you sun to feel btue. think of our I'm going to miss you very much these next few P.S. Turtle kisses and cat licks. Stephanie, Thank you for last weekend. I had a marvelous time. I love being with you. I can hardly wait for Thanksgiving. Smile. John Brother, of D.I .. Thanks a million for your concern. I should have known you really cared for a bummed knee jock. Sorry for not informing you guys about my where¬ abouts. I needed a lot of rest and relaxation Thanks again for the award you gave me this past monday (11-3-86). Good luck in the bed push. I want to sit next to Hillary for the bed push. PRETTY PLEASE!!! Caeolnrf Din.. Your a very special person in my life. May God bless you. I thank God for giving me c BStST like you. I love you. Diana Trejo See Personals, page 5 |