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TfmDoa\/CoUegkm
Ttieaday. November 1. 1968
PageS
CALENDAR
Mary Kay Vargoto*, ol the
McDonalds Corporation, wifl speak
courtesy of the Ainerican Marketing
Association today at6p.m.
Tha Society of Automotive
Engineers wl meet in room 154 of
the industrial Arte building today at 6
p.m. A film will be shown after the
general meeting.
The Cheer Squad Is looking for
stuntmen for the Buldog basketball
season. Call 292-2096 for more
information. Deadline is today and
workshops wil be continue today.
Tryouts will be held Monday
The CSUF Ski dub wil meet in
room 280 of the Old Science building
today at 730.
The International Film
Festival, sponsored by the
University Student Union Pro¬
gramming Committee, continues with
"A Place of Weeping" today at 2 p.m..
"Gandhi" Wednedsay at noon and 7
p.m. and "Das Boot" Thursday at
noonand7p.m
The Enology Society wil hold a
bake sale in the Free Speech Area
and Satellite Student Union tomorrow
from 8 am to 2 pm
Th* P.S.Y.C.H.O. Organ¬
ization wi hold a general meetingrn
rooms 312 and 314 of the Universly
Student Union Wednesday al 10
p.m.
Ken Knight of Lockheed, wl
speak In room 121 of the Old Science
building tomorrow at 730 p.m. The
speech is sponsored by the Society
of Manufacturing Engineers and the
cost lor non-SME members is $1.
The Black Student Union wl
meet in room 161 of the Old Science
buiding tomorrow at 3 pm
the Old Cafeteria Thursday from 930
a.m. to 339 Pm Law school
recruiters writ be in attehdence. For
further Wormatbn cal 294-3021.
ECKANKAR of Fresno wl
present ■Solving Frobtoms through
Dreams" in room 308 of the University
Student Union Thursday. For more
details call 439-0906 or 435-1861.
Sigma Detta CM, the Society of
Professional Journalists, wl meet in
room 242 of the McKee Fisk building
Thursday at 6 pm Refreshments wl
be served.
COSA wl hold a basketball
invitation in the South Gym Friday. For
more details cal David at 229-0568.
A presidential
between CSUF Students for Bush
and Students for Dukakis wl take
place in room 101 of the Conley Art
buiding tomorrow at 730 p.m.
Admission is free.
Law Day '88, the 10th annual pre¬
law conference sponsored by
Chicanos in Law and Associated
Students, wl be held in room 200 of
A bread and hot chocolate
sale, sponsored by Cotmena
Hispana, wl be held in the Free
Speech Area tomorrowai'8 a.m.
The Chicano Youth
Conference wl meet, in room 203
of Joyal Administration today at 5 p.m.
G roop photos wl be taken
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And they'retboth repre¬
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Corps. The caduceus on the left"
means you're part of a health care
system in which educational and
career advancement are the rule,
I not the exception. The gold bar _
on the right means you command respect as an Army officer. If you're
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LETTERS
Coatiaaed fro- page 4
pies rights and lives. Think abou: what it
would be like if the democratic majority
openly believed that homosexuality was a
crime and Grove was being pen tioned for
defending their rights. Your arganent is
a double-edged sword!!! ?
Making an anaology between an
opinion editorial and the Jewish genocide
is mindlessly perverted, and lacking of
knowledge altogether. Even if he had said
he had the right to violate other's rights,
he did not actively attempt to violate any¬
one's life, liberty and freedom of speech,
unlike some people I'm writing about
Simply telling him he doesn't have that
right, and promising him that dire conse¬
quences will befall him should he ever try
to act on that right is enough. Any fur¬
ther action i? unjustified.
Whatever consequences come from
such writing, it is the individuals that
acted that should be held accountable, and
not use some person who wrote twisted
ideas as a scapegoat for their misbehavior.
In any opinion, accountability is to your¬
self, and Barry Grove was accountable to
his convictions, as twisted and unpopular
as they were.
You sum up your beliefs quite well in
the third from the end paragraph when
you stale, "if freedom of speech is ulti¬
mately founded in our ethical beliefs then
il must be governed and bound by the
same set of beliefs, h is ours and
society's convicion that legitimate instilla¬
tions, such as the free press, arc bound io
a higher set of cibical standards...". Oh,
really? Which pan of society: yours, pol¬
iticians?! The idea is the same as the one
used by the Nazis, whose society had dif¬
ferent values, put practiced the same right
of limiting speech. Your doctorine of soc¬
iety getting the right to free speech as
long as its something that they'll want to
hear, is a founding policy of Commun¬
ism, Fascism, and every other warped and
twisted form of socialism.
Then, when Donnell Alexander had the
unmitigated gall lo defend thcscAslardly
frcedatns, you called him an "Uncle
Tom," a traitor, and a turncoat io your fas¬
cist revolution. You call his motives
quesuonabtc.cvui though you can never
truly know what his motives arc if he
keeps them secret. You, on the other
hand, Mr. Lopez and Mr. Guerra, have
staled your motives plainly enough in
your little doctrine of free speech which
should, be eniiilcd "Bully and Bash ihe
Unpopular Idea"!
You say you will liberate gays, les¬
bians and other oppressed people. Reliev¬
ing oppression by oppressing someone
else is no solution. The master and the
slave may traric places, but the institution
of slavery will still exist I will fight
against oppression of any group, but I'
will not tolerate your ideology of oppress¬
ion and popular might makes right. I will
do everything I can in aciive politics to
sec that you do not gain any more power
than you have, and if you do I shall write
more than a letter! I, too. will not'waver.
Sincerely,
LeeTribbey
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Object Description
| Title | 1988_11 The Daily Collegian November 1988 |
| Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
| Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
| Publication Date | 1988 |
| Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
| Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
| Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
| Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
| Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
| Technical Information | Scanned at 600 dpi; TIFF; Microfilm ScanPro 2000 "E-image data" |
| Language | eng |
Description
| Title | November 1, 1988, Page 5 |
| Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
| Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
| Publication Date | 1988 |
| Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
| Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
| Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
| Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
| Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
| Technical Information | Scanned at 600 dpi; TIFF; Microfilm ScanPro 2000 "E-image data" |
| Language | eng |
| Full-Text-Search | - TfmDoa\/CoUegkm Ttieaday. November 1. 1968 PageS CALENDAR Mary Kay Vargoto*, ol the McDonalds Corporation, wifl speak courtesy of the Ainerican Marketing Association today at6p.m. Tha Society of Automotive Engineers wl meet in room 154 of the industrial Arte building today at 6 p.m. A film will be shown after the general meeting. The Cheer Squad Is looking for stuntmen for the Buldog basketball season. Call 292-2096 for more information. Deadline is today and workshops wil be continue today. Tryouts will be held Monday The CSUF Ski dub wil meet in room 280 of the Old Science building today at 730. The International Film Festival, sponsored by the University Student Union Pro¬ gramming Committee, continues with "A Place of Weeping" today at 2 p.m.. "Gandhi" Wednedsay at noon and 7 p.m. and "Das Boot" Thursday at noonand7p.m The Enology Society wil hold a bake sale in the Free Speech Area and Satellite Student Union tomorrow from 8 am to 2 pm Th* P.S.Y.C.H.O. Organ¬ ization wi hold a general meetingrn rooms 312 and 314 of the Universly Student Union Wednesday al 10 p.m. Ken Knight of Lockheed, wl speak In room 121 of the Old Science building tomorrow at 730 p.m. The speech is sponsored by the Society of Manufacturing Engineers and the cost lor non-SME members is $1. The Black Student Union wl meet in room 161 of the Old Science buiding tomorrow at 3 pm the Old Cafeteria Thursday from 930 a.m. to 339 Pm Law school recruiters writ be in attehdence. For further Wormatbn cal 294-3021. ECKANKAR of Fresno wl present ■Solving Frobtoms through Dreams" in room 308 of the University Student Union Thursday. For more details call 439-0906 or 435-1861. Sigma Detta CM, the Society of Professional Journalists, wl meet in room 242 of the McKee Fisk building Thursday at 6 pm Refreshments wl be served. COSA wl hold a basketball invitation in the South Gym Friday. For more details cal David at 229-0568. A presidential between CSUF Students for Bush and Students for Dukakis wl take place in room 101 of the Conley Art buiding tomorrow at 730 p.m. Admission is free. Law Day '88, the 10th annual pre¬ law conference sponsored by Chicanos in Law and Associated Students, wl be held in room 200 of A bread and hot chocolate sale, sponsored by Cotmena Hispana, wl be held in the Free Speech Area tomorrowai'8 a.m. The Chicano Youth Conference wl meet, in room 203 of Joyal Administration today at 5 p.m. G roop photos wl be taken THERE ARE TVK> SIDES TO BECOMING A NURSE IN THE ARMY. And they'retboth repre¬ sented by the insignia you wear as a member of the Army Nurse j Corps. The caduceus on the left" means you're part of a health care system in which educational and career advancement are the rule, I not the exception. The gold bar _ on the right means you command respect as an Army officer. If you're earning a BSN, write: Army Nurse Opportunities, P.O. Box 7713, Clifton. NJ 07015. Or call toll free 1-800-USA-ARMY. .ARMY NURSE CORPS- BE AU-YOU CAM BE. OPEN 24 HOURS CORNER OF WILLOW & SHAW NEXT TO ELAYLESS DRUGS Always Fast Friendly Service Only California Drivers Liscense and FSU I.D. card required for check approval on purchases LETTERS Coatiaaed fro- page 4 pies rights and lives. Think abou: what it would be like if the democratic majority openly believed that homosexuality was a crime and Grove was being pen tioned for defending their rights. Your arganent is a double-edged sword!!! ? Making an anaology between an opinion editorial and the Jewish genocide is mindlessly perverted, and lacking of knowledge altogether. Even if he had said he had the right to violate other's rights, he did not actively attempt to violate any¬ one's life, liberty and freedom of speech, unlike some people I'm writing about Simply telling him he doesn't have that right, and promising him that dire conse¬ quences will befall him should he ever try to act on that right is enough. Any fur¬ ther action i? unjustified. Whatever consequences come from such writing, it is the individuals that acted that should be held accountable, and not use some person who wrote twisted ideas as a scapegoat for their misbehavior. In any opinion, accountability is to your¬ self, and Barry Grove was accountable to his convictions, as twisted and unpopular as they were. You sum up your beliefs quite well in the third from the end paragraph when you stale, "if freedom of speech is ulti¬ mately founded in our ethical beliefs then il must be governed and bound by the same set of beliefs, h is ours and society's convicion that legitimate instilla¬ tions, such as the free press, arc bound io a higher set of cibical standards...". Oh, really? Which pan of society: yours, pol¬ iticians?! The idea is the same as the one used by the Nazis, whose society had dif¬ ferent values, put practiced the same right of limiting speech. Your doctorine of soc¬ iety getting the right to free speech as long as its something that they'll want to hear, is a founding policy of Commun¬ ism, Fascism, and every other warped and twisted form of socialism. Then, when Donnell Alexander had the unmitigated gall lo defend thcscAslardly frcedatns, you called him an "Uncle Tom," a traitor, and a turncoat io your fas¬ cist revolution. You call his motives quesuonabtc.cvui though you can never truly know what his motives arc if he keeps them secret. You, on the other hand, Mr. Lopez and Mr. Guerra, have staled your motives plainly enough in your little doctrine of free speech which should, be eniiilcd "Bully and Bash ihe Unpopular Idea"! You say you will liberate gays, les¬ bians and other oppressed people. Reliev¬ ing oppression by oppressing someone else is no solution. The master and the slave may traric places, but the institution of slavery will still exist I will fight against oppression of any group, but I' will not tolerate your ideology of oppress¬ ion and popular might makes right. I will do everything I can in aciive politics to sec that you do not gain any more power than you have, and if you do I shall write more than a letter! I, too. will not'waver. Sincerely, LeeTribbey Inexpensive. Student discounts available. Monthly payment plans. All policies include: 24-hour emergency road service and towing. CALL: 445-0191 |
