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Page 6 Hye Sharzhoom May 1988 Not only Armenians suffered in Ottoman In a letter of April 21 Berge Bulbulian attacked Lanny Larson's review of Theodore Boghosian's TV documentary "An Armenian Journey." Although Mr. Larson had been generally favorable to Mr. Boghosian's work and urged his readers to watch it Mr. Bulbulian found his review offensive because in one sentence he had questioned whether the program might not have been too one-sided in its claim of an Ottoman "genocide" of "over a- million Armenians" in 1915. Mr. Bulbulian was also incensed by the comments of Justin McCarthy, who was identified in the documentary as a representative of an Institute of Turkish Studies. Mr. McCarthy was shown disparaging the validity of certain pieces of evidence for the "genocide." Regardless of the understandably sensitive nature of this subject for Mr. Bulbulian, the remarks that he made deserve further comment Justin McCarthy was presented on the program in such a way as to leave the viewer with die impression that he was a spokesman for and paid propagandist of the present Turkish government Unmentioned was the fact that Professor McCarthy, a member of the Department of History at the University of Louisville, is probably this country's leading authority on the demography of the late Ottoman Empire. In his book "Muslims and Minorities: The Population of Ottoman Anatolia and the End of the Empire," Professor McCarthy presents a thorough and detailed study of the population statistics of Anatolia in the late Ottoman period, comparing them with die census records of the Republic of Turkey in the 1920s and '30s. He limits the area under this examination to the present-day borders of Anatolia, or "Asiatic" Turkey. Professor McCarthy utilized both the national censuses of the Ottoman and Turkish governments from 1876 to 1935 and provincial salnames, or local censuses, taken more irrafcilarly. He examines the censuses carefully for internal inconsistencies that could indicate deliberate falsification or evidence of tampering. He claims to have found little such evidence that would be statistically significant for Anatolia as a whole. He pointed out repeatedly, however, that the Ottoman administration was weaker in eastern Anatolia than in western or central Anatolia and undercounting of both Moslems and Christians was likely greater there. He also examined the population data offered by the Greek and Armenian patriarchates to the allied powers after World War I. Subjecting them to the same analysis as the Ottoman and Turkish data, he found numerous examples of internal inconsistencies. The patriarchal figures were a mixture of informal guesswork, all in rounded numbers, the propaganda designed to serve the political ends of elements in the Greek and Armenian communities at the post-World War I peace conferences. For example, in none of the provinces of northeastern Anatolia, including Van, do any of the Ottoman censuses or salnames record a majority of Armenians before Worid War I. In every province of Anatolia, including the northeastern ones, Moslems appear to have been consistendy in the majority. Even adjusting for suspected undercounting of Christians, the percentage of Armenians in the province of Van, where they were most concentrated, stood in 1912 at 40 percent of the whole. Moslems constituted almost all of the remaining 60 percent In separate chapters on the Greek and Armenian populations of Anatolia, McCarthy finds the Anatolian Greeks to have suffered over 300,000 deaths and to have had nearly 1 million refugees from Anatolia between 1914 and 1923, whde Armenians, McCarthy figures, lost at least 568,000 dead, and almost 900,000 left Anatolia as refugees. Approximately 400,000 Anatolian Armenians sought refuge in what was becoming Soviet Armenia; 275,000 settled in various successor states to the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East; 70,000 were resettled in Constantinople and European Turkey, and 30,000 each went to France and to the United States. Neither Professor McCarthy nor anyone else denies that the Armenian people in Anatolia suffered great horrors in 1915. He is well aware that large numbers of Armenians died of exhaustion or were shot on long forced marches, and that hundreds of Armenian officers in the Ottoman army on the Russian front were executed in 1915 when segments of the Armenian population of eastern Anatolia rose up against their own government and tried to stab it in the back while the Ottoman troops were fighting invading Russian forces. Moreover, both he and the Turkish government acknowledge that many Armenians were shot in front of their children. No one denies that yet greater numbers of Armenians died of starvation and disease as the infrastructure of society collapsed in eastern Anatolia under die impact of the Russian invasion and gruesome civil war. What is denied by the present Turkish government is that there was a deliberate national policy of genocide, or that the killing and deaths in eastern Anatolia were exclusively a problem for the Armenians. Professor McCarthy, while finding over 300,000 Greek deaths and nearly 600,000 Armenian deaths, also found in Anatolia during the same period, 1914-1923, almost 2.5 million Moslem deaths. The Moslem population of Van, for example, according to the 1922 census was not much more than one-third of what it had been in 1912. If these statistics are even only partially accurate, they raise significant questions. What had happended to all of those Moslems? How many of them left for other provinces? How many of those who remained had died of disease and starvation? How many of them were killed by Armenians? In Mr. Boghosian's film, as in most Armenian work on this subject that I am aware of, there is not the slightest hint that the Turks and Kurds of eastern Anatolia died too, or that perhaps many of them were killed by Armenians during this period That is what in effect is being denied by the living today. Any ghasdy war can be made to look like a massacre if only the dead on one side are counted. David N. Jones Professor of History, CSUF, Fresno Professor says Armenian genocide is documented fact I am writing this letter in response to the letter May 2 from a professor of history at CSUF. The contents were offensive to the Armenian community of Fresno in particular and to Armenians in general, considering that on April 24 the Armenian genocide of 1915 was commemorated. Fresno was graced with the presence of Gov. George Deukmejian, who was the keynote speaker, and whose remarks accurately reflect Armenian concerns. The governor said, "But the memory of our past will forever survive the many who died. No one can rewrite world history...Today's Turkish government cannot live a lie forever. Its stubborn refusal ever to admit that the massacre happended under the Ottoman Empire mocks justice and wounds the conscience of an entire world..." To clarify an earlier letter to the editor, die chairman of the Institute of Turkish Studies is Sukru Elekdag, Turkish ambassador to die United States, and the institute has as one of its honorary fellows Stanford Shaw, professor of history at UCLA [McCarthy is a historian associated with the Institute]. The institute itself was funded by a $3 million grant by the Republic of Turkey (as an example of American tax dollars used against American citizens). It is indeed surprising that a professor of history at CSUF would be so ignorant of the history of the Armenian genocide. The plan of the Turkish government was to eliminate the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire and thus to fulfill the dreams of a pan-Turkish state which would stretch from Constantinople to the Mongolian steppes. The Republic of Turkey, which was created in 1923, is a successor and inheritor of these nationalistic and racist goals. . There is hardly anything admirable in the work of Justin McCarthy, especially as it relates to Armenians. He uses his work indirectly to engage scholars in a numbers game and to deflect scholars from their true task-to study the causes of the genocide and to examine the effects of the genocide on survivors. I feel it is my duty to at least point out the more obvious errors and illogical statements of his work and to educate the professor of history at CSUF. In the work, which the CSUF professor of history quoted from and which he suggests is a scholarly treatment of the demography of the Ottoman Empire, one is struck by the tide, which indicates the dissimulation and revisionism and distortion which McCarthy utilizes in his attempt to discredit the Armenian genocide. The tide begins, "Muslims and Minorities..." this is a misnomer to begin with, because McCarthy will try to compare the population figures of total Muslims versus Armenians- ignoring the fact that there was no such thing as a Muslim majority, considering the Kurds and other Muslim groups-to show that Armenians were a minority in their homeland. In actuality die Armenians were still a plurality in the six Armenian vilayets as compared with Turks, Kurds, and other groups-even after centuries of massacres, overtaxation, depredations, and the financial disorder engendered at the hands of the Turks. The letter cites McCarthy's estimate that 600,000 Armenians or 40 percent of the Armenian population died. The professor is quoted as saying, "Those regions of Anatolia with a high proportion of Christian inhabitants were very likely to have died." But why did 40 percent of the Armenians die and only 18 percent of the Muslims? Perhaps what he has neglected to state is that die genocide and deportations were executed by the Ottoman army and utegulars armed with the purpose of destroying Armenians. What he fails to state is that there was no civil war but rather a one-sided massacre by armed men of unarmed women, children, and old men. He fails to state that Turks were looting Armenian homes from 1915-1923, and that the genocide continued under the Republic of Turkey. Later he says, "While Christian-Muslim warfare was, with foreign invasions, at the root of Anatolian mortality, it is an enor to speak of Greek deaths, Muslim deaths, or Armenian deaths as if each somehow has a separate existence." In fact they were separate because die Turkish government was responsible for the Armenian and Greek massacres. In fact McCarthy repeats the Turkish govern- mcmt line on this issue. McCarthy states, "Of the one and a half million Armenians who had lived in Anatolia before World War I, only about 70,000 remained in the Turkish Republic in 1923...A people who had lived in eastern Anatolia since before recorded history were simply gone." How easily the history of the world is dismissed-they were simply gone! Did not any of them want to stay where they had lived for over 3,000 years? What an obnoxious conclusion by McCarthy! The genocide is a documented fact. It is not only Armenians but the world which was a witness to the honors of the genocide of 1915. One only has to read the history of the United States in the period of 1915-1923 to know that the United States was well informed of the progress of the genocide by our ambassador to Turkey, Henry Morgen thau, who sent regular reports of the massacres to a deaf world. When will professors of history such as McCarthy and the one at CSUF stop apologizing for the Turkish government and instead see to it that the Turkish governmemt takes responsibility for its actions? I would like to conclude with a quote by a sociologist at the State University of New York at Genesee, Vahakn N. Dadrian, who said recendy in an interview: "There is a sustained consensus among the Armenians of the world that the Worid War I genocide is not only a historical fact unassailable by any new scholarship or any devices purporting to be hitherto untapped archives and primary sources, but a disaster as well that brought the Armenian nation to the brink of extinction. The Turkish government will be honoring herself, her people and her scholars by granting recognition to this fact and by refraining from blindly and hopelessly defending the regime which that republic supplanted more than six decades ago after publicly discrediting it I not only share this view but am more than ever firmly convinced that the magnitude and the allied documentation of the crime is such as to defy the plausability of any credible argument denying that crime." Let the revisionists of history be aware of this. Barlow DerMugrdechian, ' Acting Director, Armenian Studies Program, CSUF
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Title | 1988_05 Hye Sharzhoom Newspaper May 1988 |
Alternative Title | Armenian Action, Vol. 9 No. 3, May 1988; Ethnic Supplement to the Collegian. |
Publisher | Armenian Studies Program, California State University, Fresno. |
Publication Date | 1988 |
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Full-Text-Search | Page 6 Hye Sharzhoom May 1988 Not only Armenians suffered in Ottoman In a letter of April 21 Berge Bulbulian attacked Lanny Larson's review of Theodore Boghosian's TV documentary "An Armenian Journey." Although Mr. Larson had been generally favorable to Mr. Boghosian's work and urged his readers to watch it Mr. Bulbulian found his review offensive because in one sentence he had questioned whether the program might not have been too one-sided in its claim of an Ottoman "genocide" of "over a- million Armenians" in 1915. Mr. Bulbulian was also incensed by the comments of Justin McCarthy, who was identified in the documentary as a representative of an Institute of Turkish Studies. Mr. McCarthy was shown disparaging the validity of certain pieces of evidence for the "genocide." Regardless of the understandably sensitive nature of this subject for Mr. Bulbulian, the remarks that he made deserve further comment Justin McCarthy was presented on the program in such a way as to leave the viewer with die impression that he was a spokesman for and paid propagandist of the present Turkish government Unmentioned was the fact that Professor McCarthy, a member of the Department of History at the University of Louisville, is probably this country's leading authority on the demography of the late Ottoman Empire. In his book "Muslims and Minorities: The Population of Ottoman Anatolia and the End of the Empire," Professor McCarthy presents a thorough and detailed study of the population statistics of Anatolia in the late Ottoman period, comparing them with die census records of the Republic of Turkey in the 1920s and '30s. He limits the area under this examination to the present-day borders of Anatolia, or "Asiatic" Turkey. Professor McCarthy utilized both the national censuses of the Ottoman and Turkish governments from 1876 to 1935 and provincial salnames, or local censuses, taken more irrafcilarly. He examines the censuses carefully for internal inconsistencies that could indicate deliberate falsification or evidence of tampering. He claims to have found little such evidence that would be statistically significant for Anatolia as a whole. He pointed out repeatedly, however, that the Ottoman administration was weaker in eastern Anatolia than in western or central Anatolia and undercounting of both Moslems and Christians was likely greater there. He also examined the population data offered by the Greek and Armenian patriarchates to the allied powers after World War I. Subjecting them to the same analysis as the Ottoman and Turkish data, he found numerous examples of internal inconsistencies. The patriarchal figures were a mixture of informal guesswork, all in rounded numbers, the propaganda designed to serve the political ends of elements in the Greek and Armenian communities at the post-World War I peace conferences. For example, in none of the provinces of northeastern Anatolia, including Van, do any of the Ottoman censuses or salnames record a majority of Armenians before Worid War I. In every province of Anatolia, including the northeastern ones, Moslems appear to have been consistendy in the majority. Even adjusting for suspected undercounting of Christians, the percentage of Armenians in the province of Van, where they were most concentrated, stood in 1912 at 40 percent of the whole. Moslems constituted almost all of the remaining 60 percent In separate chapters on the Greek and Armenian populations of Anatolia, McCarthy finds the Anatolian Greeks to have suffered over 300,000 deaths and to have had nearly 1 million refugees from Anatolia between 1914 and 1923, whde Armenians, McCarthy figures, lost at least 568,000 dead, and almost 900,000 left Anatolia as refugees. Approximately 400,000 Anatolian Armenians sought refuge in what was becoming Soviet Armenia; 275,000 settled in various successor states to the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East; 70,000 were resettled in Constantinople and European Turkey, and 30,000 each went to France and to the United States. Neither Professor McCarthy nor anyone else denies that the Armenian people in Anatolia suffered great horrors in 1915. He is well aware that large numbers of Armenians died of exhaustion or were shot on long forced marches, and that hundreds of Armenian officers in the Ottoman army on the Russian front were executed in 1915 when segments of the Armenian population of eastern Anatolia rose up against their own government and tried to stab it in the back while the Ottoman troops were fighting invading Russian forces. Moreover, both he and the Turkish government acknowledge that many Armenians were shot in front of their children. No one denies that yet greater numbers of Armenians died of starvation and disease as the infrastructure of society collapsed in eastern Anatolia under die impact of the Russian invasion and gruesome civil war. What is denied by the present Turkish government is that there was a deliberate national policy of genocide, or that the killing and deaths in eastern Anatolia were exclusively a problem for the Armenians. Professor McCarthy, while finding over 300,000 Greek deaths and nearly 600,000 Armenian deaths, also found in Anatolia during the same period, 1914-1923, almost 2.5 million Moslem deaths. The Moslem population of Van, for example, according to the 1922 census was not much more than one-third of what it had been in 1912. If these statistics are even only partially accurate, they raise significant questions. What had happended to all of those Moslems? How many of them left for other provinces? How many of those who remained had died of disease and starvation? How many of them were killed by Armenians? In Mr. Boghosian's film, as in most Armenian work on this subject that I am aware of, there is not the slightest hint that the Turks and Kurds of eastern Anatolia died too, or that perhaps many of them were killed by Armenians during this period That is what in effect is being denied by the living today. Any ghasdy war can be made to look like a massacre if only the dead on one side are counted. David N. Jones Professor of History, CSUF, Fresno Professor says Armenian genocide is documented fact I am writing this letter in response to the letter May 2 from a professor of history at CSUF. The contents were offensive to the Armenian community of Fresno in particular and to Armenians in general, considering that on April 24 the Armenian genocide of 1915 was commemorated. Fresno was graced with the presence of Gov. George Deukmejian, who was the keynote speaker, and whose remarks accurately reflect Armenian concerns. The governor said, "But the memory of our past will forever survive the many who died. No one can rewrite world history...Today's Turkish government cannot live a lie forever. Its stubborn refusal ever to admit that the massacre happended under the Ottoman Empire mocks justice and wounds the conscience of an entire world..." To clarify an earlier letter to the editor, die chairman of the Institute of Turkish Studies is Sukru Elekdag, Turkish ambassador to die United States, and the institute has as one of its honorary fellows Stanford Shaw, professor of history at UCLA [McCarthy is a historian associated with the Institute]. The institute itself was funded by a $3 million grant by the Republic of Turkey (as an example of American tax dollars used against American citizens). It is indeed surprising that a professor of history at CSUF would be so ignorant of the history of the Armenian genocide. The plan of the Turkish government was to eliminate the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire and thus to fulfill the dreams of a pan-Turkish state which would stretch from Constantinople to the Mongolian steppes. The Republic of Turkey, which was created in 1923, is a successor and inheritor of these nationalistic and racist goals. . There is hardly anything admirable in the work of Justin McCarthy, especially as it relates to Armenians. He uses his work indirectly to engage scholars in a numbers game and to deflect scholars from their true task-to study the causes of the genocide and to examine the effects of the genocide on survivors. I feel it is my duty to at least point out the more obvious errors and illogical statements of his work and to educate the professor of history at CSUF. In the work, which the CSUF professor of history quoted from and which he suggests is a scholarly treatment of the demography of the Ottoman Empire, one is struck by the tide, which indicates the dissimulation and revisionism and distortion which McCarthy utilizes in his attempt to discredit the Armenian genocide. The tide begins, "Muslims and Minorities..." this is a misnomer to begin with, because McCarthy will try to compare the population figures of total Muslims versus Armenians- ignoring the fact that there was no such thing as a Muslim majority, considering the Kurds and other Muslim groups-to show that Armenians were a minority in their homeland. In actuality die Armenians were still a plurality in the six Armenian vilayets as compared with Turks, Kurds, and other groups-even after centuries of massacres, overtaxation, depredations, and the financial disorder engendered at the hands of the Turks. The letter cites McCarthy's estimate that 600,000 Armenians or 40 percent of the Armenian population died. The professor is quoted as saying, "Those regions of Anatolia with a high proportion of Christian inhabitants were very likely to have died." But why did 40 percent of the Armenians die and only 18 percent of the Muslims? Perhaps what he has neglected to state is that die genocide and deportations were executed by the Ottoman army and utegulars armed with the purpose of destroying Armenians. What he fails to state is that there was no civil war but rather a one-sided massacre by armed men of unarmed women, children, and old men. He fails to state that Turks were looting Armenian homes from 1915-1923, and that the genocide continued under the Republic of Turkey. Later he says, "While Christian-Muslim warfare was, with foreign invasions, at the root of Anatolian mortality, it is an enor to speak of Greek deaths, Muslim deaths, or Armenian deaths as if each somehow has a separate existence." In fact they were separate because die Turkish government was responsible for the Armenian and Greek massacres. In fact McCarthy repeats the Turkish govern- mcmt line on this issue. McCarthy states, "Of the one and a half million Armenians who had lived in Anatolia before World War I, only about 70,000 remained in the Turkish Republic in 1923...A people who had lived in eastern Anatolia since before recorded history were simply gone." How easily the history of the world is dismissed-they were simply gone! Did not any of them want to stay where they had lived for over 3,000 years? What an obnoxious conclusion by McCarthy! The genocide is a documented fact. It is not only Armenians but the world which was a witness to the honors of the genocide of 1915. One only has to read the history of the United States in the period of 1915-1923 to know that the United States was well informed of the progress of the genocide by our ambassador to Turkey, Henry Morgen thau, who sent regular reports of the massacres to a deaf world. When will professors of history such as McCarthy and the one at CSUF stop apologizing for the Turkish government and instead see to it that the Turkish governmemt takes responsibility for its actions? I would like to conclude with a quote by a sociologist at the State University of New York at Genesee, Vahakn N. Dadrian, who said recendy in an interview: "There is a sustained consensus among the Armenians of the world that the Worid War I genocide is not only a historical fact unassailable by any new scholarship or any devices purporting to be hitherto untapped archives and primary sources, but a disaster as well that brought the Armenian nation to the brink of extinction. The Turkish government will be honoring herself, her people and her scholars by granting recognition to this fact and by refraining from blindly and hopelessly defending the regime which that republic supplanted more than six decades ago after publicly discrediting it I not only share this view but am more than ever firmly convinced that the magnitude and the allied documentation of the crime is such as to defy the plausability of any credible argument denying that crime." Let the revisionists of history be aware of this. Barlow DerMugrdechian, ' Acting Director, Armenian Studies Program, CSUF |