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Men Teir Of USSR — Soviet Armenia (3 6 *J &-{££• Tw FRESNO - Two Fresnans, Leon Peters and Paul Paul toured the Soviet Union late in April and took in Erevan, the capital of Soviet Armenia. Both men were visiting behind the iron curtain as members of groups sponsored by the U.S. gov- Mamoulian Pens Poem For Spring "Ararat" Issue NEW YORK - A poem by famed film producer, RoubenMamoulian, is featured in the Spring issue of "Ararat" a quarterly published by the Armenian General Benevolent Union. Kathryn Manoogian, a native of Fresno and currently doing graduate work in San Francisco, is also a contributor to the current issue with her short story, "As A Good Wife Should." Mamoulian was prompted to write the poem after, according to "Ararat," reading "some lines of Byron concerned with the point that the Garden of Eden was located in Armenia." His poem, entitled, "Armenia," follows: On this wide earth there is one spot of ground All men should cherish as their native land, For it was there that Paradise was found, The Bible says,—by the Almighty's hand. And it was there that God created man In His own image—Adam, earthly father Of all of us:—white, black, or tan, All born of Eve, our common primal mother. In that same land did Noah's ark alight On Ararat, the mount that topped the waters; And there the dove achieved her fruitful flight, And man survived in Noah's sons daughters. That blessed ground, those fateful mountain slopes, Where God once walked, where mortal life began, Where Adam cried, and Noah worked his hopes, Is called Armenia, native land of man. ernment's ' 'People to People" program. Peters, proprietor of Valley Foundry and Machine Works, toured with a group of business and professional men and Paul, head of the Fresno County Fair, went with a group of managers of western fairs and expositions. While the two men both saw and experienced similar conditions, Peters reports that he was "surprised to find so much poverty among the masses and such low wages and extremely high prices." Paul, however, reports that he ' 'went to Erevan to find a little village and found a nice city of 510,000 people." But he adds, "you cannot compare their living standards-with those prevailing in America. That would be unfair. But when you compare them with Turkey, they're in heaven.'' Peters concludes that the Soviet Union has two economies side by side, one for consumer goods, and the other for military and defense. The civilian or consumer good economy, he says, is not at all advanced. People must stand in long lines to buy food and clothing and must pay extremely high prices. "I saw one line of women waiting for a store to open and counted 75 people." He also reports that prices are very high. The average worker makes the equivalent of $110 per month and must pay fifteen cents for eggs in the Winter (10 cents in Spring), five and six cents for potatoes, and from fifteen dollars to 57 dollars for a pair of shoes. Other prices that he noted at a free market (where peasants can sell their own produce from private half-acre plots) were 50 cents for a single pomegranet, $1.50 per lb. for apples, 50 cents for a small bunch of radishes, and $8 for a small dressed duck or goose. Both men report very poor housing facilities. "I visited one doctor," says Paul, "who was doing very well, he had a television set and a piano but only three small rooms and a kitchen for his family of four. Peters says that even the new apartments (which Paul reports are going up rapidly) are very small and poorly constructed according to our standards. "In Erevan I was surprised to see many people living in extremely sub - standard homes. You find a wide range of housing accomodations from mud huts to first class apartments. But (Continued on Page 5) ■:> Armenia. . . (Continued From Page 1) [> LEON S. PETERS PAUL PAUL even the best apartments are not spacious. Anyone with a two or three room apartment is living in luxury. A family of five lives in two rooms and many families of four live in one room, sharing a kitchen and bath with three to nine families." According to Peters many apartment houses have no bathtubs.' 'The people go to town and pay 30 kopeks for a public bath.'' Both men found the people generally satisfied throughout the Soviet Union and saw little difference in attitude toward the regime in Armenia as compared with the rest of the USSR. "One fellow told me that his father made a mistake when he brought him there," says Paul, who concluded that the ones who seemed dissatisfied were those who had gone to Armenia from Western countries. Peters says, "I talked to more people in Armenia who were not pleased with the present regime than in other parts, but that was probably because I could speak the language and get closer to the people. Wherever we went, the feeling was that the regime under Stalin was far more severe than under Khrushchev. There's been a little loosening up of civilian goods and of people's fear of secret police. They told me that under Stalin they wouldn't have been able to come to the hotel where there were Americans."' Both men found the city beautiful and Paul talks of the view from his hotel window of the snow-capped Mt. Ararat.''It was really a sight.'' Paul emphasized the parks and public squares which he had traveled to see. "They are quite beautiful, and the people are out until about 11 p.m. on the streets and in the parks. This is probably because of the lack of housing space." Peters was more interested in the workings of the economy in the Soviet Union and found that the machine tools and equipment used in heavy industry were "in every way just as good and as far advanced as anything we have here." But' the consumer - goods plants often used obsolete and inadequate equipment. "I noticed a great deal of unbalanced production. At every airport there would be large numbers of airplanes not in service. At the Moscow airport I counted 61 two and four engine jets not in service covered with canvas. The same thing was true at every other airport, with large numbers of helicopters covered with canvas. 1 concluded that apparently the factories producing these things are producing them without need for them. They can't shut the factory down because those things might be needed later by the military." The people were found to be very friendly by both travellers. Paul was given a private dining room at his hotel in Erevan and his table had a little American flag as a centerpiece . " I finally got into the main •Aininor room where the natives lot of cognac ana"vFhft>',alldrinka their glasses and toast someone before each drink. Finally I stood up with my glass and told them that I was toasting* everyone in the dining room. From then on they were very congenial to me. They called me 'hairig Jon' (dear little father)." Peters found the people anxious to talk wherever he went, with the usual question being concerned with wages, and the buying power of the average U.S. citizen. "Wherever we went in Russia, Leningrad, Moscow or Rostov, everyone told us that Erevan was the most beautiful spot, highly developed and the paradise of the USSR." But Peters and his Fresno group were somewhat let down when they finally arrived there. "We didn't notice much difference. The farming and housing was just as backward...." Peters did find Kiev, the capital of the Ukranian Republic, somewhat improved over the other cities he visited. The conditions of the farmer were studied by Peters who visited a collective farm in Armenia. It was 4,020 acres in size and had 577 families on it. "And the women work alongside the men." Peters estimates that there were 1,000 to 1,100 people working the farm or one individual tilling between three and a half and four acres. "In the San Joaquin Valley the average is one person to 160 acres." Neither of the two men had any trouble talking to the natives in Armenian, and Paul says that eventhe Russians living in Soviet Armenia speak Armenian. "When I asked one man how come he spoke Armenian when he was Russian, he told me, 'when I'm here I'm Armenian.' " The two Fresnans were both interested to learn that the grape vines in the Erevan district are completely covered with dirt in the winter. The predominant grape varieties according to Paul are Muscat, Thompson and Malaga. And while machines push the dirt up alongside the vines, they must be covered on top by hand. The impressions of Paul Paul and Leon Peters on their trip to the USSR and Soviet Armenia were in no way contradictory. Both men found the trip interesting— both were objective in what they saw. But since Paul went there expecting the worst, he was somewhat impressed with what he saw. Peters, however, had not been prepared to find a consumer economy at such a backward level and was surprised at the low standard of living which still prevails. A statement by Paul Paul perhaps best sums up both men's feelings upon their return to the United States. "There just isn't any place in the world that can compare with America "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^H
Object Description
Title | Scrapbook |
Object type | Photo album |
Physical collection | Leon S. Peters papers |
Folder structure | Biographical_information |
Description
Title | Page 28 |
Date Created | 1962-06-07 |
Physical description | 38.1 cm. x 27.8 cm. |
Full text search | Men Teir Of USSR — Soviet Armenia (3 6 *J &-{££• Tw FRESNO - Two Fresnans, Leon Peters and Paul Paul toured the Soviet Union late in April and took in Erevan, the capital of Soviet Armenia. Both men were visiting behind the iron curtain as members of groups sponsored by the U.S. gov- Mamoulian Pens Poem For Spring "Ararat" Issue NEW YORK - A poem by famed film producer, RoubenMamoulian, is featured in the Spring issue of "Ararat" a quarterly published by the Armenian General Benevolent Union. Kathryn Manoogian, a native of Fresno and currently doing graduate work in San Francisco, is also a contributor to the current issue with her short story, "As A Good Wife Should." Mamoulian was prompted to write the poem after, according to "Ararat," reading "some lines of Byron concerned with the point that the Garden of Eden was located in Armenia." His poem, entitled, "Armenia," follows: On this wide earth there is one spot of ground All men should cherish as their native land, For it was there that Paradise was found, The Bible says,—by the Almighty's hand. And it was there that God created man In His own image—Adam, earthly father Of all of us:—white, black, or tan, All born of Eve, our common primal mother. In that same land did Noah's ark alight On Ararat, the mount that topped the waters; And there the dove achieved her fruitful flight, And man survived in Noah's sons daughters. That blessed ground, those fateful mountain slopes, Where God once walked, where mortal life began, Where Adam cried, and Noah worked his hopes, Is called Armenia, native land of man. ernment's ' 'People to People" program. Peters, proprietor of Valley Foundry and Machine Works, toured with a group of business and professional men and Paul, head of the Fresno County Fair, went with a group of managers of western fairs and expositions. While the two men both saw and experienced similar conditions, Peters reports that he was "surprised to find so much poverty among the masses and such low wages and extremely high prices." Paul, however, reports that he ' 'went to Erevan to find a little village and found a nice city of 510,000 people." But he adds, "you cannot compare their living standards-with those prevailing in America. That would be unfair. But when you compare them with Turkey, they're in heaven.'' Peters concludes that the Soviet Union has two economies side by side, one for consumer goods, and the other for military and defense. The civilian or consumer good economy, he says, is not at all advanced. People must stand in long lines to buy food and clothing and must pay extremely high prices. "I saw one line of women waiting for a store to open and counted 75 people." He also reports that prices are very high. The average worker makes the equivalent of $110 per month and must pay fifteen cents for eggs in the Winter (10 cents in Spring), five and six cents for potatoes, and from fifteen dollars to 57 dollars for a pair of shoes. Other prices that he noted at a free market (where peasants can sell their own produce from private half-acre plots) were 50 cents for a single pomegranet, $1.50 per lb. for apples, 50 cents for a small bunch of radishes, and $8 for a small dressed duck or goose. Both men report very poor housing facilities. "I visited one doctor," says Paul, "who was doing very well, he had a television set and a piano but only three small rooms and a kitchen for his family of four. Peters says that even the new apartments (which Paul reports are going up rapidly) are very small and poorly constructed according to our standards. "In Erevan I was surprised to see many people living in extremely sub - standard homes. You find a wide range of housing accomodations from mud huts to first class apartments. But (Continued on Page 5) ■:> Armenia. . . (Continued From Page 1) [> LEON S. PETERS PAUL PAUL even the best apartments are not spacious. Anyone with a two or three room apartment is living in luxury. A family of five lives in two rooms and many families of four live in one room, sharing a kitchen and bath with three to nine families." According to Peters many apartment houses have no bathtubs.' 'The people go to town and pay 30 kopeks for a public bath.'' Both men found the people generally satisfied throughout the Soviet Union and saw little difference in attitude toward the regime in Armenia as compared with the rest of the USSR. "One fellow told me that his father made a mistake when he brought him there," says Paul, who concluded that the ones who seemed dissatisfied were those who had gone to Armenia from Western countries. Peters says, "I talked to more people in Armenia who were not pleased with the present regime than in other parts, but that was probably because I could speak the language and get closer to the people. Wherever we went, the feeling was that the regime under Stalin was far more severe than under Khrushchev. There's been a little loosening up of civilian goods and of people's fear of secret police. They told me that under Stalin they wouldn't have been able to come to the hotel where there were Americans."' Both men found the city beautiful and Paul talks of the view from his hotel window of the snow-capped Mt. Ararat.''It was really a sight.'' Paul emphasized the parks and public squares which he had traveled to see. "They are quite beautiful, and the people are out until about 11 p.m. on the streets and in the parks. This is probably because of the lack of housing space." Peters was more interested in the workings of the economy in the Soviet Union and found that the machine tools and equipment used in heavy industry were "in every way just as good and as far advanced as anything we have here." But' the consumer - goods plants often used obsolete and inadequate equipment. "I noticed a great deal of unbalanced production. At every airport there would be large numbers of airplanes not in service. At the Moscow airport I counted 61 two and four engine jets not in service covered with canvas. The same thing was true at every other airport, with large numbers of helicopters covered with canvas. 1 concluded that apparently the factories producing these things are producing them without need for them. They can't shut the factory down because those things might be needed later by the military." The people were found to be very friendly by both travellers. Paul was given a private dining room at his hotel in Erevan and his table had a little American flag as a centerpiece . " I finally got into the main •Aininor room where the natives lot of cognac ana"vFhft>',alldrinka their glasses and toast someone before each drink. Finally I stood up with my glass and told them that I was toasting* everyone in the dining room. From then on they were very congenial to me. They called me 'hairig Jon' (dear little father)." Peters found the people anxious to talk wherever he went, with the usual question being concerned with wages, and the buying power of the average U.S. citizen. "Wherever we went in Russia, Leningrad, Moscow or Rostov, everyone told us that Erevan was the most beautiful spot, highly developed and the paradise of the USSR." But Peters and his Fresno group were somewhat let down when they finally arrived there. "We didn't notice much difference. The farming and housing was just as backward...." Peters did find Kiev, the capital of the Ukranian Republic, somewhat improved over the other cities he visited. The conditions of the farmer were studied by Peters who visited a collective farm in Armenia. It was 4,020 acres in size and had 577 families on it. "And the women work alongside the men." Peters estimates that there were 1,000 to 1,100 people working the farm or one individual tilling between three and a half and four acres. "In the San Joaquin Valley the average is one person to 160 acres." Neither of the two men had any trouble talking to the natives in Armenian, and Paul says that eventhe Russians living in Soviet Armenia speak Armenian. "When I asked one man how come he spoke Armenian when he was Russian, he told me, 'when I'm here I'm Armenian.' " The two Fresnans were both interested to learn that the grape vines in the Erevan district are completely covered with dirt in the winter. The predominant grape varieties according to Paul are Muscat, Thompson and Malaga. And while machines push the dirt up alongside the vines, they must be covered on top by hand. The impressions of Paul Paul and Leon Peters on their trip to the USSR and Soviet Armenia were in no way contradictory. Both men found the trip interesting— both were objective in what they saw. But since Paul went there expecting the worst, he was somewhat impressed with what he saw. Peters, however, had not been prepared to find a consumer economy at such a backward level and was surprised at the low standard of living which still prevails. A statement by Paul Paul perhaps best sums up both men's feelings upon their return to the United States. "There just isn't any place in the world that can compare with America "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^H |